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|    gds@best.cut.here.com to All    |
|    Re: My College Crisis    |
|    26 Oct 04 02:38:20    |
      XPost: soc.college.admissions, misc.education, sci.math              At 24 Oct 2004 08:38:10 -0700, f000000000000bar@netscape.net       (f000000000000bar) wrote:       >drstrangeglove99@yahoo.com (Tron99) wrote in message news:<5751       31e.0410231246.       >4e333f65@posting.google.com>...       >*snip*       >> Most students are not mathematically mature enough to excel in school.       >> This is not a problem of competition but one where some students have       >> been exposed to and/or thought about math sorts of problems more than       >> others. My suggestion is that to fully take advantage of the college       >> environment that the person take off from school for a few years,       >> living at his parent's house, working on and studying about math sorts       >> of problems. There simply is not enough time to go into depth in math       >> problems if he is not highly mathematically mature BEFORE he goes to       >> college. The ones who are mathematically mature, the subject level is       >> very low level, and they don't spend much time on it. Rather, they       >> spend their time researching math.       >       >Interesting... do you know any one who has tried this?       >       >Some people obtain such backgrounds: (1) a lot of math exposure during       >high school beyond their regular courses (e.g. self-learning, math       >competitions, college courses), and/or (2) attendance at a       >math/science high school where they are in this kind of environment       >for four years.       >       >It's kind of like the difference between a virtuoso performer deciding       >to study music at the college level and someone who is still at a       >beginning/intermediate level who is expecting college to bring them up       >to the virtuoso level. The former would likely get a lot more out of       >college.       >       >Of course, how do you explain for pure talent? Surely there are       >talented youngsters without a particularly strong exposure to math who       >develop an interest in the subject *during college* and decide to       >major in it. Lots of math majors used to be EE or CS majors, but       >others come from just about any type of background. Many of these       >people do quite well upon choosing math as a major, despite having a       >supposed lack of mathematical maturity.              It's possible that such students are engaged in pursuits that a       mathematician might recognize as mathematical, even though the students       aren't studying math formally. Or perhaps the students had a good basis       in the fundamentals of math at an early age. Or even that they are       able to thrive in the college/university enviroment, not being held       back by poor teachers, distractions to learning, etc.              --gregbo       gds at best dot com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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