XPost: misc.writing, misc.education, alt.journalism
From: longhornster@gmail.com
With no regard for personal safety or the comfort of others, the Great
"NYC XYZ" blathered:
>
>Yup, you heard it here first!
>
>!) No more "round tables"...not only are people not equal (that is, in
>the same league in terms of technical ability and passion to excel),
>which such a formation aims to pretend
Pretends. Fucksake. First thing for you to learn is that plain is
nearly always preferable to ornate for the novice.
> but facing one another makes
>for a more "personal" experience than needs be -- by which term
>"personal" I mean that people take things personally, they take
>criticism personally, like you're attacking their baby or their
>religion (etc.) -- for we debate IDEAS, not people, and thus it
>shouldn't matter who wrote what.
>
Yeah right. The writing in this post and in your other posts sucks.
You can't even write a decent Usenet post. Boy, you have a mountain to
climb.
>2) Therefore, all pieces workshopped should be ANONYMOUS to further
>discourage the formation of cliques and egotism.
What a dull workshop this is going to be without cliques or egotism.
The latter is all that keeps most of us at the old desk, son.
> Everyone gives their
>opinion as before, but we never find out who wrote what because it
>shouldn't matter who wrote what and what they intended. The piece
>should be able to stand on its own and speak for itself -- and if it
>doesn't, the workshop notes where and why not. But having the author
>explain his/her intentions is silly...you simply can't critique the
>half-baked because the rejoinder is inevitably "well, it's just a
>draft" (doh!)...to discourage such a cop-out, and to even further
>discourage "personality conflicts" we simply make our statements and
>leave it at that. The writer comments like everyone else, only it is
>never announced (though an immature personality can easily give
>him/herself away) that the piece is his/hers.
>
LOL. "I think this piece by X is one of the most astounding works of
true literature I have ever encountered... what? No, I did not fucking
write it!"
>3) Everyone reads John Gardner's "Art of Fiction" and Dana Gioia's "Can
>Poetry Matter?" as well as B.R. Meyers' "A Reader's Manifesto"
Why?
I have a better idea. No one reads any "how to write" books. Everyone
reads Fowler and resolves to follow his advice to the letter.
>no later
>than Creative Writing 201 -- and the instructor assigning it as
>reference otherwise. This is so that the workshop doesn't turn into a
>game of Three Blind Men and an Elephant, so that we don't wind up with
>a blind-leading-the-blind situation.
Well, that's bound to be fixed by you all reading some books.
> One must understand, if not also
>master, the basics before we launch off into the great beyond -- those
>texts serve as springboards from which one may dive into the depths of
>creative writing.
Do they? Well, why not just read them and give the workshop the
swerve?
> It is a lazy conceit that one simply writes -- this
>is almost like saying one simply sits at the piano and bangs away at
>keys: just because one's been signing one's name since age four does
>not one a writer make. Pedantic? Hardly. Like muscles which work in
>opposition/tandem, a writer needs to be aware of the tradition of what
>has gone before, needs to be aware in a systematic way. Like an
>actress whose
Like a dog with his own balls...
Well, fucksake. You should just email this shit to yourself.
Dr Zen
"But let me tell you that I never planned
to let go of the hand that has been
clinging by its thick country skin
to my yellow country teeth" -- Ounsworth
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