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   Straydog to DarkProtoman   
   Re: How would this look for a career in    
   16 Apr 07 23:15:22   
   
   XPost: sci.research.careers   
   From: asd@panix.com   
      
   On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, DarkProtoman wrote:   
      
   > How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or the DoD?   
   > BTW, I'm in high school, I took California's High School Proficency   
   > Exam, and I'm now eligible to enroll in Cypress College's Honors   
   > Program. I'm 16.   
   >   
   > Earn an AS in Biology while enrolled in the Cypress College Honors   
   > Program   
   > Earn a SB in Biology and a minor in mathematics at MIT   
   > Earn a MPhil in Biochemistry from King's College of Cambridge   
   > University   
   > Earn a SM in Bioengineering from the Harvard School of Engineering and   
   > Applied Sciences   
   > Earn a MD from the Harvard-MIT HST program, become a HHMI-NIH Research   
   > Scholar during sophomore year   
   > Earn a PhD in Bioengineering from MIT   
   > Take internal medicine residency at Massachusets General Hospital   
   > Take postdoc(s) at Genentech, MIT, Harvard, and/or Cambridge.   
   >   
   > How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or the DoD?   
      
   Take my word for it, you don't need that much. Just get a BS from one of   
   the top 10-20 undergrad schools (preferably elite [if you can get in]),   
   then--seriously--skip the MS degree, and get your PhD from one of the top   
   10-20 research universities. Then, to top off, do your postdoc, also, at   
   one of the top 10-20 elite labs (if biology, then eg. Cold Spring Harbor,   
   Whitehead).   
      
   Get the MD in a MD-PhD prgram (5 years, it should be). But, don't forget   
   you have to get _in_ medical school.   
      
   Do NOT do postdocs in private industry. Only do one postdoc, not less than   
   3 years, not more than 4.   
      
   You would do well to avoid being associated with Nobel prise winners   
   because they always (unless you can demonstrate otherwise) are out giving   
   seminars all over the world making more money off honorariums than their   
   salaries. You want a guy who will be around to mentor you and help you get   
   your career going.   
      
   > Thanks!!!!   
   >   
   > BTW, what would I put on my labcoat/nameplate if I successfully   
   > complete this plan? All of my degrees, or just the highest --MD, PhD--?   
      
   If you get both MD & PhD, then you can put them both (forget lessor   
   degrees) on and have one-upsmanship over those who have only one   
   doctorate.   
      
   Don't forget one thing: the war is NOT with credential collection like you   
   listed above. The war is about making significant discoveries and   
   contributions (papers in peer-reviewed journals) AND getting large   
   grants/contracts AND surviving the politics.   
      
   Best advice: start making contact (if you are interested in biomedical   
   outcomes) with people in labs doing grant-funded research and see if you   
   can get any kind of part-time lab work (so you can get close to many   
   people actually doing real research and talk with them), or even   
   volunteer work. If you play this right, you get them (faculty) to write   
   letters of recommendation for you (you will need these).   
      
   Me, I am a retired research professor. I was at UMAB SoM (Baltimore),   
   Departments of Biophysics and Pathology. Hopkins was our competitor, not   
   Georgetown.   
      
   >   
      
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