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   XPost: soc.rights.human   
   From: markprobert17@lumbercartel.com   
      
   "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > chamillionare22@yahoo.com (Nick) wrote in message   
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   > > BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message   
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   > > > "Jeff"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > > WARNING   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (Garbage deleted)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Ever hear of the freedom of speech?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Everything on that site is publically available.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Have a good day.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Jeff   
   > > >   
   > > > Jeff, there are limitations to freedom of speech. Sexual harassment is   
   > > > no freedom of speech, and telling people how to make bombs is no   
   > > > freedom of speech either, because people may have to die as a result   
   > > > of that information.   
   > > >   
   > > > This earth is not a sane place. Even if you put a little note   
   > > > underneath your bomb instructions and information about how to throw   
   > > > bombs in police cars, that people should not do that, Dave Touretzky,   
   > > > you, and anybody else knows that there are numerous people who just   
   > > > want to blow up others and they screw the law and warnings. Touretzky   
   > > > claims no responsibilty for what other crazy people construct and   
   > > > build after the instructions on his website, but he tells them how to   
   > > > do that. What a dangerous snake!   
   > > >   
   > > > Only because there are also other criminals out there who tell   
   > > > terrorists on the web how to blow up things and people, doesn't mean   
   > > > for Touretzky, a university educator (!) to act same reckless.   
   > > >   
   > > > I also remind you that the young man who had the same bomb   
   > > > instructions on his website was arrested by the FBI. His website was   
   > > > removed. What do you think makes Touretzky innocent by putting that   
   > > > dangerous stuff back on his site?   
   > > >   
   > > > There are millions of example in which Touretzky could make his point   
   > > > on freedom of speech. Endangering other peoples'lives and degrading   
   > > > others through sexual perversions, persecuting religion, are the worst   
   > > > examples!   
   > > >   
   > > > Anyway, Jeff, if you, or anybody you love will be disabled or killed   
   > > > through a bomb that was build after Touretzky's or another madman's   
   > > > instructions, you will be a changed man. You will regret your words   
   > > > that freedom of speech should allow detailed information on how to   
   > > > build and throw bombs. The world is too crazy for that information,   
   > > > how come you have not noticed that?   
   > > >   
   > > > The right to live unharmed is a constituional right that is superior   
   > > > to freedom of speech. If freedom of speech harms or endangers the   
   > > > constitutional right of people to live a peaceful and happy life, you   
   > > > can't say it. It would be unconstitutional. Touretzky's bomb   
   > > > instructions are unconstitutional because he endangers other   
   > > > constitutional rights. His persecution of religion also violates the   
   > > > First Amendment.   
   > > >   
   > > > Barbara Schwarz   
   > >   
   > > Barbara, I agree with your concern. I think that freedom of speech can   
   > > go a little too far. If "Freedom of Speach" allows people to promote   
   > > criminal behavior, easily accessed to ALL ages, then there is   
   > > something terribly wrong with our society. And people actually   
   > > allowing it, and standing up for it is sickening to me. We have been   
   > > fighting to keep terrorists out of our country, while our own citizens   
   > > are standing up for people who have no respect for human life, and   
   > > glorify the terror.   
   > >   
   > > It is sad how people can be so dillusional.   
   > >   
   > > -Gerome   
   >   
   > I am glad that you are responsbile, Gerome. My point exactly. The   
   > world is a very dangerous place and while most people will not resort   
   > to brutal violence, there are still enough people that do.   
   >   
   > Actually, I think freedom of speech is very important, but building   
   > bombs is not. It is really rotten to abuse the First Amendment to   
   > promote terrorism and crimes.   
   >   
   > Our police reported that 500 bombs exploded in Salt Lake Valley during   
   > the last summer. They said the bombs were constructed by teenagers who   
   > downloaded bomb instructions from the Internet. As far as I know, only   
   > animals were killed and  property was blown up, but just imagine what   
   > may happen if a person accidentially walks in the way of a bomb.   
   >   
   > And then there are terrorists that don't want to blow up only animals   
   > (which is pretty gruesome too) and property, but aim their violence   
   > towards innocent people.   
   >   
   > The earth doesn't need more websites to build bombs. It needs more   
   > websites to build a better and saver world. And esp. an educator, as   
   > David Touretzky, should know about it. He is giving "free speech" a   
   > bad rap.   
      
   Ther Kriminal Kult of $cientology gives pseudo-religions a bad rap.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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