XPost: misc.education, soc.bi, misc.kids.health   
   XPost: soc.rights.human   
   From: magid@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net   
      
   Barbara Schwarz wrote:   
   > "Magi D. Shepley"  wrote in   
   message news:<3F8F5180.7030701@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net>...   
   >   
   >>Nick,   
   >>The public library is open and available to all people.  You don't need   
   >>any money, there is no age limit (beyond the 5 years or having the   
   >>ability to write your name that most libraries impose prior to checking   
   >>out books).  I guarentee that I can go to the library that is 2 blocks   
   >>from my apartment and find things promoting criminal behavior in the   
   >>children's section and the young adult's section.   
   >   
   >   
   > Which means that your librarians should be investigated, Magi, because   
   > such books should not be in the children's section. Children should   
   > read books to build character not to become terrorists and criminals.   
      
   No, it means that there are published children's books that are about   
   war, violence and other "criminal" activities.  Even Shakespeare   
   promotes criminal activity if you want to use it that way.  So does the   
   Bible.  Free speech is just that: I'll defend your right to say what you   
   want, and you have no right to stop me from saying what I want.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>I can *probably* even find the instructions on how to make a bomb in the   
   >>children's non-fiction section...  I won't guarantee that, however,   
   >>because it may not be labeled in that fashion.   
   >>Freedom of Speech means that I have the right to disagree with you, and   
   >>I can fight to have your speech stopped: but I have no right to actually   
   >>STOP it.   
   >>   
   >>Magi   
   >   
   >   
   > Freedom of Speech has it's limitations, Magi. Check your law library   
   > hereto. Teaching others on to blow people up is such a limitation.   
      
   Sorry, Barbara, you're wrong.  The limits on freedom of speech are   
   pretty clear:  Yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theatre is a limit; libelous   
   posting is such a limit.  Your statement isn't a limit on the Freedom of   
   Speech.  http://www.wired.com/wired/4.03/no.law.html   
      
   > hope you are no fan of Pat Robertson, the Christian Coalition founder.   
   > This alleged religious man said a few days ago, during a recent Club   
   > 700 episode, that it would not be a bad idea to plant a nuclear device   
   > underneath the U.S. State Department. That man is crazy, he is openly   
   > advocating terrorism, and he is abusing the First Amendment, free   
   > speech for his evil intentions and hatred. If he has problems with the   
   > State Department, why is he not filing a penal complaint against them   
   > or why is he not suing them?   
      
   Let me go on record here: Pat Robertson is a venal, evil racist.  But he   
   has the RIGHT to make those statements.  He has that freedom of speech.   
     You do not have the right to stop them.   
      
   Magi   
      
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