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   Message 77,908 of 79,681   
   Tara to Tara   
   Re: Trudeau has resigned; what next?   
   07 Jan 25 01:19:35   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.politics, can.general   
   XPost: can.politics, talk.politics.misc   
   From: jackpine@airpost.net   
      
   On Jan 6, 2025 at 8:01:22 PM EST, "Tara"  wrote:   
      
   > On Jan 6, 2025 at 4:56:05 PM EST, "Ned Ludd"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/6/2025 12:52 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>> On Jan 6, 2025 at 3:33:12 PM EST, "David Dalton"  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Justin Trudeau has resigned from his position as   
   >>>> leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, and has   
   >>>> prorogued parliament until March 24, and will   
   >>>> stay on as prime minister until a new leader   
   >>>> is chosen.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Who do you think should (or will) replace him   
   >>>> as Liberal leader?   
   >>>   
   >>> Hi David,   
   >>> I don't like any of the potential candidates. The are all part of the old   
   >>> guard. Carney is the only one who hasnt been in Trudeau's cabinet. But I   
   don't   
   >>> think he is a leader - Trudeau without the charisma :). Actually, I think   
   >>> Dominic is the best bet. However, I think what they need is someone from   
   >>> outside who can take the libs back to the Classic Liberal Party. There   
   isn't   
   >>> time for that though. Maybe in four years, eh.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> No, wait, Tara, there is a real possibility for you get a genuine   
   >> change of direction here.   
   >>   
   >> Just relax, take a deep breath, and consider this:   
   >>   
   >> Elon Musk can become your next Prime Minister!   
   >>   
   >> And WOW, did Chatty screw up on this one!. Note that in the   
   >> following, under point (1), Chatty claims that "there is no   
   >> public record of him holding Canadian citizenship".   
   >>   
   >> HA! That's bogus. If you read the wiki article on Elon, it clearly   
   >> states that Elon, "at the age of 18 he immigrated to Canada,   
   >> acquiring its citizenship through his Canadian-born mother, Maye."   
   >>   
   >> SO, I asked Chatty point-blank (second block below) "Does Elon   
   >> Musk hold Canadian citizenship?" To which Chatty instantly replied:   
   >> "Yes, Elon Musk does hold Canadian citizenship. He acquired it   
   >> through his mother, Maye Musk, who is Canadian.   
   >>   
   >> WHAT A SCREW UP!   
   >>   
   >> So, bottom line, if Elon just LIVES in Canada occasionally, he can   
   >> be your next Prime Minister!   
   >>   
   >> Ned   
   >>   
   >> ---   
   >> Q: Does the Canadian government rules prevent Elon Must from being Prime   
   >> Minister?   
   >>   
   >> ChatGPT:   
   >> Yes, there are specific rules that would likely prevent Elon Musk from   
   >> becoming the Prime Minister of Canada, unless certain conditions are   
   >> met. Here are the key points:   
   >>   
   >> 1. Canadian Citizenship   
   >> To be eligible to become Prime Minister, an individual must be a   
   >> Canadian citizen.   
   >> Elon Musk, born in South Africa, holds U.S. citizenship and previously   
   >> held South African citizenship, but there is no public record of him   
   >> holding Canadian citizenship. If he is not a Canadian citizen, he would   
   >> not qualify.   
   >>   
   >> 2. Membership in the House of Commons   
   >> The Prime Minister of Canada is typically the leader of the political   
   >> party with the most seats in the House of Commons. To be the Prime   
   >> Minister, a person usually needs to be elected as a Member of Parliament   
   >> (MP) in Canada.   
   >> To become an MP, Elon Musk would need to run for election in a Canadian   
   >> federal riding and win.   
   >>   
   >> 3. Residency and Political Involvement   
   >> Canadian political leaders are generally expected to reside in Canada   
   >> and actively participate in the country's political and public life.   
   >> Musk’s primary residence and business activities are in the United   
   >> States, which could be a significant obstacle.   
   >>   
   >> 4. Constitutional and Practical Considerations   
   >> While there are no explicit constitutional rules that prohibit a   
   >> non-Canadian-born individual from becoming Prime Minister (as long as   
   >> they are a citizen and meet other criteria), the practicalities of   
   >> running for office, leading a political party, and gaining widespread   
   >> public support could be significant barriers.   
   >>   
   >> Unless Elon Musk obtains Canadian citizenship, establishes residency in   
   >> Canada, and becomes deeply involved in Canadian politics, it is highly   
   >> unlikely he could become Prime Minister.   
   >>   
   >> ---   
   >>   
   >> Q: Does Elon Musk hold Canadian citizenship?   
   >>   
   >> ChatGPT:   
   >> Yes, Elon Musk does hold Canadian citizenship. He acquired it through   
   >> his mother, Maye Musk, who is Canadian. This citizenship allowed him to   
   >> move to Canada in the late 1980s, where he briefly attended Queen’s   
   >> University in Kingston, Ontario, before transferring to the University   
   >> of Pennsylvania in the United States.   
   >>   
   >> Although Musk is a Canadian citizen, he primarily resides in the United   
   >> States and conducts most of his business there. This would not   
   >> disqualify him from pursuing Canadian political office, but he would   
   >> still face significant practical and political barriers to becoming   
   >> Prime Minister, such as establishing residency, participating in   
   >> Canadian political life, and being elected as a Member of Parliament.   
   >>   
   >> ---   
   > Canada would be much too boring for Musk. Wondering what he studied at Queens   
   > and why he left (Queens is an excellent University).   
   >  I wonder if Chatty would know what most Canadians think about Musk and   
   > whether we would vote for him or not. I doubt that he would have the patience   
   > to go through all the barriers and snail like speed that it takes to get   
   > anything done here anyway. Maybe he could try having a lottery. -$100,000 per   
   > vote   
   > Nah :)   
      
   Oh..looks like were not impressed   
      
   https://www.cdmrn.ca/publications/2024-12-10-november-situation-report   
      
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