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   Attila to dukvjk9k4abmatd2jfhkmm417j0g5jtem7@   
   Re: More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.   
   15 Dec 25 08:44:22   
   
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   >>>>>the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is   
   >>>>>lawful, or not.   
   >>>>>     You will note the Constitution states in the Fifth Amendment, the   
   >>>>>ones SCOTUS used, all PERSONS, not all citizens.   
   >>>>>     You are certainly free to lobby for an amendment that restricts,   
   >>>>>or eliminates the right to Due Process. I don't think you will find   
   >>>>>successes, but you guarantee failure if you don't try.   
   >>>>>      You may also file a writ of certiorari, either yourself or   
   >>>>>through a lawyer, to argue to have a new ruling that negates the   
   >>>>>previous ones.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I suspect SCOTUS might reach a different conclusion post   
   >>>>Biden invasion.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Maybe so, maybe no. File a writ of certiorari. If chosen, you, or   
   >>>your legal agent, may argue for an overrule of SCOTUS' previous   
   >>>rulings. Or lobby for an amendment limiting, or removing, due process.   
   >>>As it stands, all persons within the United States of America are to   
   >>>be assured due process. You are still free to offer legal precedent   
   >>>that would show due process is not required.   
   >>>     I am aware of the rule of expedited removal. Expedited removal   
   >>>was codified in IIRIRA in 1996 as an amendment to the INA. And it   
   >>>requires the alien be apprehended within 100 miles of the border and   
   >>>have been present in the country for less than 14 days. Sadly, many   
   >>>deportees who are not given due process do not meet these   
   >>>requirements, making the rule of expedited removal irrelevant.   
   >>   
   >>This entire immigration process needs to be changed and new   
   >>laws need to be enacted to reflect the reality of the   
   >>situation.   
   >   
   >     Lobby to get the changes you believe are needed.   
   >   
   >>If a person does not have legal status to be in   
   >>the country they are subject to immediate deportation and no   
   >>laborious court procedure should be  required.   
   >   
   >     The Constitution requires it.   
      
   According to SCOTUS.  That is subject to change.   
      
   >   
   >>Only their   
   >>status should be determined as easily and quickly as   
   >>possible.   
   >   
   >     Which is what deportation hearings are for. But they're not being   
   >used. People are just deported based solely on accusations.   
      
   Specific example please.   
      
   >   
   >>Plus there should be severe limits to persons and   
   >>departments who can grant any temporary exemptions, starting   
   >>with the elimination of the state department.   
   >   
   >     You do realize this means an end to DHS, ICE, and boarder patrol.   
      
   Only a lot of the volume they handle.  Too many sources can   
   approve legal status for aliens.  DHS, ICE, and Border   
   Patrol should not be granting legal status.  This should be   
   concentrated in one department.   
      
   On reflection perhaps the State Department should do this.   
      
   >An odd position for someone who wants them to have open permission to   
   >do as they wish in regards to deportation.   
   >     I do hope I simply misunderstand what you're presenting.   
      
   Obviously you are.   
      
   --   
      
      
   Every person in the US is here either   
   legally or illegally. Those that are   
   here illegally should be afraid.   
   Be very afraid.  It does not matter   
   how long you have been here.  It does   
   not matter why you are here. It does not   
   matter what you have done legally while you   
   were here. It does not matter what any   
   relative may have done while you were here.   
   It only matters that you are here illegally.   
   It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer   
   but we will find you and we will deport you.   
   Be prepared.   
      
   Deport them all.   
      
   Due process:   
   Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is   
   the documentation to establish that?   
      
      
   All politicians are trained to lie   
   and make those lies sound like   
   the truth.  They start with the biggest   
   lie of all: Politicians are public   
   servants.   
      
   The Dims have an appropriate party   
   symbol: A jackass.   
      
   Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting   
   and abhorrent.   
   Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.   
      
   I support:   
      
   A Constitional Amendment establishing   
   the Freedom of Choice.   
      
   The elimination of public expression,   
   display or support of religion or   
   religious positions.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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