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   From: Spamassassin@irrt.De   
      
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   Please be polite. Please communicate accurately.   
      
   On Sat, 25 Oct 2025, David Hartung wrote:   
   "On 10/25/2025 5:11 PM, c186282, [. . .]    
   [. . .]   
   > On 10/25/25 19:01, pothead wrote:   
   > > On 2025-10-25, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:   
   > > > |   
   > > > | Catherine Connolly elected 10th president of Ireland in   
   > > > | landslide victory"   
      
   Actually Catherine Martina Ann Connolly became elected to be a president    
   of a country in Ireland.   
      
   "> > They just destroyed their country."   
      
   Each country here had already been destroyed before this election has    
   existed.   
      
   On Sat, 25 Oct 2025, David Hartung wrote:   
   "The president of Ireland is a figurehead.   
   He or she has no executive power, no policy power."   
      
   Please explain these last two quoted sentences by David Hartung in    
   relation to this Gript quotation which I posted in Irish newsgroups on    
   Friday (i.e. in   
   news:66225d4f-42d6-8c1a-10f2-549c9ad12f9c@irrt.De   
   with   
   Subject: Re: Webpage about Heather Maud Stewart Humphreys and Alan Joseph   
   Shatter   
   on   
   Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 20:15:20 +0200):   
      
   ""MMG 17 days ago   
   “As I have said before, and needs to be repeated, the President has zero    
   executive power.”   
      
      
   Not quite zero.   
      
      
   According to the oath of office/declaration, the first duty of the    
   President is to “maintain the Constitution”.   
      
      
   The President is also appointed as Commander-in-Chief of the Defense    
   Forces.   
      
      
   In all actions he/she takes, the President is required to act on the    
   advice of the Government.   
      
      
   But his/her primary duty is to “maintain the Constitution'“, therefore,    
   if the President considers the Gov advice to be unconstitutional, it must    
   be disregarded.   
      
      
   In particular, except in case of invasion, Article 28.3.1 requires the    
   Dail to make a formal declaration of war or give equivalent assent to    
   participation in a war before the Defense Forces can participate in a    
   war. “War shall not be declared and the state shall not participate in    
   any war save with the assent of Dáil Éireann.”   
      
      
   NATO is a 99.99999% participant in the Russo-Ukrainian War, doing    
   everything except direct infantry combat on the front lines. Therefore,    
   cooperation with NATO in providing support to Ukraine amounts to    
   participation in the war. Certainly, this is the Russian position.    
   Legalistic quibbling about what is and what is not participation in a war    
   is not adjudicated in a court, but only by the unanimity of the    
   belligerents, and in the case of the RUW, there is no such unanimity,    
   therefore Ireland IS a participant in the war.   
      
      
   Dail Eireann has not given explicit assent to participation in the war,    
   therefore DF participation in it is unconstitutional.   
      
      
   The President could ignore the Government advice and order the DF to    
   cease all cooperation with NATO and Ukrainian Armed Forces in relation to    
   the conflict pending a formal declaration of war or equivalent explicit    
   assent by Dail Eireann to participation in it."   
   arsa   
   HTTPS://Gript.Ie/perrins-michaels-presidential-election   
   "   
      
   On Sat, 25 Oct 2025, David Hartung wrote:   
   "The president does    
   what the   
   prime minister instructs him to do."   
      
   False!   
      
   On Sat, 25 Oct 2025, David Hartung wrote:   
   "The current prime minister of Ireland is in   
   the Fianna Fáil party"   
      
   Dear Mister Hartung:   
      
   Thanks for writing a diacritic. However, the prime minister of Northern    
   Ireland is not in this party. This party is not even in Northern Ireland.   
      
   Sincerely.   
   Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester   
      
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