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   XPost: soc.culture.china   
   From: tom@tomma.com.jp   
      
   It is not meant to say it was the superiority of the economic power of the   
   country that replaced the other country. Often, it is the overspendings of   
   burdens in the country that eroded of its wealth from its economic power.   
      
   The Britain was wealthy but were doomed by its high public expenditures. The   
   US has the same problem of public spending more than they earned.  Japan is   
   very rich but is eroded by public spending. Their over investment in their   
   country was from their own people.   
      
   China has become wealthy;  they overtake Japan in foreign reserves. China   
   has a lot of reserves to spend. They also able to drive internal growth.   
   Their internal debts driven up by consumers.   
      
      
      
      
   "Mr. B1ack"  wrote in message   
   news:71tf1cdu5s4m1q2kr55qmas172j0mgnf5h@4ax.com...   
      
   On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 02:20:14 +0800, "tom"  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >Every power comes and go.   
   >   
   >Every power comes from their rise of economic power.   
   >   
   >Their decline is when the other rising power rises to its economic power   
   >over them.   
   >   
   >The ebbs and flows of power comes from this.   
      
      
      A very Buddhist way of looking at things ...   
      
      However Japan didn't fall because China replaced it ... there   
      was little competition at the time. It fell due to bad policy and   
      some bad luck. It over-invested to the point where those   
      investments HAD to pay off - and they didn't.   
      
      It's to be noted that China is following the same pattern ...   
      it has built and bought on a massive scale that only a high   
      level of growth can pay for - but the growth rate is slowing   
      down. Unpaid debts are likely in their future ... and who   
      can THEY borrow from ?   
      
      And the USA should ask "Who, if not China, can WE   
      borrow from ?". Chinese money has been maintaining   
      the illusion of prosperity in the USA for a long time now   
      
      
   >"Mr. B1ack"  wrote in message   
   >news:tone1c9o2fas39vvmvqrm0l21l5eroiak8@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 23:08:19 +0800, "tom"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Japan is wealthy. Wealth can indeed creates 'friends".   
   >>   
   >>No money is no "talks".   
   >   
   >   
   >   "Wealthy" ... but certainly not in the way it   
   >   used to be in the 1980s when everybody   
   >   thought Japan would own the world.   
   >   
   >   But exports fell off, investments didn't pan out,   
   >   reboot programs didn't work and Japan fell   
   >   into an economic funk until the red sun rose in   
   >   the west and outshown everybody.   
   >   
   >   Japan in the 80s could have held its own with   
   >   todays China - but todays Japan must be   
   >   content with whatever China isn't interested   
   >   in manufacturing. So, the world bows towards   
   >   China but pays Japan little notice.   
   >   
   >   There are two paths to hope :   
   >   
   >   First, that Chinas rapid rise was built on an   
   >   unstable foundation which might crumble.   
   >   It IS unstable, poorly regulated, poorly buffered,   
   >   almost no safety-nets. An economy assembed   
   >   in great haste with only rapid growth in mind.   
   >   
   >   Second, an economic alliance of Chinas proximate   
   >   competitors. If Japan isn't "big enough" anymore then   
   >   such an alliance will create a larger, more impressive,   
   >   entity the world WILL pay attention to, can't live without.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Mr. B1ack"  wrote in message   
   >>news:00081cpmcu0qjcao1d9bstjochu08mv1hs@4ax.com...   
   >>   
   >>On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 05:58:51 +0800, "tinto"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Japan has to foster good relations with other big countries to garner   
   >>>supports from them.   
   >>   
   >>   That will help. Japan and the USA may be symbiotic at   
   >>   this point ... but the USA has become completely dependent   
   >>   on China - and thus might not be able to be as helpful as   
   >>   Japan would want in a crisis. Cultivating India, S.Korea,   
   >>   Vietnam and perhaps Australia would be wise.   
   >>   
   >>   The other half of the equation is Japans continuing economic   
   >>   weakness. Wealth creates "friends" and strong alliances -   
   >>   gives countries vested reasons to make sure Japan stays   
   >>   healthy.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"//\\leXX"  wrote in message news:nuvj4e$c1d$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>   
   >>>http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/india-japan-eye-deeper-defe   
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