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   From: RC32@jonball.org   
      
   chrisv  wrote in   
   news:lo1lvglen34i002msb48pmvfon5b609j71@4ax.com:   
      
   > 3.BB963 wrote:   
   >   
   >>But this misses some important realities, including the condition and   
   >>age of that equipment, the frayed infrastructure of Russia’s military   
   >>commands, and the poor quality of Russian conscripts. The Russian   
   >>military is a large regional force, and it can kill a lot of people.   
   >>That doesn’t mean it can sustain a war with a vastly more populous and   
   >>wealthier coalition of some three dozen nations (or more, if others   
   >>join the fight).   
   >>   
   >> (tons more, snipped)   
   >   
   > None of that matters.  Russia borders Ukraine.   
      
   No shit Sherlock.   
      
   > NATO couldn't stop   
   > them, even if they wanted to.   
      
   Baloney.   
      
   > NATO has no obligation or desire to   
   > defend Ukraine.  Ukraine isn't worth WWIII.   
      
   That's what they said about the Rheinland in 1936, Austria in 1938,   
   Sudetenland in 1938.   
      
   Dictators ruling militaristic, aggressive, expansionist states will   
   continue to expand until stopped.   
      
   History tell us this.   
      
   There is no rational debate on this point.   
      
      
   > It's perfectly understandable why Russia doesn't want NATO in Ukraine.   
   > If Ukraine doesn't want to get invaded, they should pledge to never   
   > join NATO.  That would solve the problem while allowing NATO to save   
   > face and not acquiesce to Russia's demand that NATO not consider   
   > Ukraine for membership.   
   >   
   > Let them declare neutrality, like Switzerland.   
      
   Switzerland has it's mountains to protect it, as well as small but well-   
   trained military.   
      
   Ukraine, on the other hand, is mostly flat and perfect tank territory.   
      
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