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   Message 96,752 of 98,335   
   Lazarus Cain to All   
   Vietnam revisited?   
   20 Mar 22 07:17:06   
   
   From: rking164@comcast.net   
      
   From the everlasting fountain of bad ideas that is the Washington   
   establishment now comes another one: turn Ukraine into an Iraq- or   
   Afghanistan-style quagmire for Russia.   
      
   This idea has been floating around national security circles for a while. But   
   with Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, it’s become explicit. Hillary Clinton   
   pointed to the Soviet quagmire in 1980s Afghanistan, where there were “a lot   
   of countries    
   supplying arms and advice and even some advisors to those who were recruited   
   to fight Russia,” adding that it was “the model that people are now   
   looking toward.” Both experts and the Biden administration and its allies   
   are now predicting this very    
   thing, with Biden having explored and planned for the idea since late last   
   year, and US and European officials now reportedly discussing it. Biden’s   
   somewhat cryptic allusion in his State of the Union address to Russian   
   president Vladimir Putin having    
   to “pay a continuing high price over the long run” hints at such plans.   
      
   In other words, it seems more than likely that this — Washington and other   
   NATO governments supporting a long-term Ukrainian insurgency that will do to   
   Russia what twenty years in Afghanistan did to the United States — is   
   shaping up as the most    
   likely endgame for all this. It’s also an unbelievably awful idea.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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