From: rking164@comcast.net   
      
   Echoing through my brain concerning the modern war coverage is how the media   
   will go out of this world as they report on the aftermath of a siege.   
      
   Refusing to surrender only invites death to an unknown number in Mariupol, but   
   who truly is responsible when surrender is declined?   
   It takes two to tango, and any true jury would be deadlocked.   
   I really can' answer, other than to avoid war.   
   Bear in mind war in Donbass was already in progress February 1st, and Ukraine   
   has been the wartime aggressor between 2014 and 2022 with material support   
   from Washington. It is not inaccurate to define this as Joe Biden's war. Any   
   fool would know Putin    
   would not do this if Trump was President.    
   I hate Trump, but I think Biden is a senile fool following the lead of not so   
   competent advisors, selected more by race, gender and sexual orientation   
   rather than the proper skills.   
      
   We still have a global warming problem but Biden's preference for an American   
   hegemony . rather than a true an international democracy takes the world   
   backwards over 60 years geopolitically   and farther away from defeating   
   globing warming in time to    
   avoid another global disaster   
      
   A few dead bodies on a street and a grave is much less than what could be   
   revealed when Mariupol is fully under Russian control. It is logical to assume   
   that the fortunate are evacuated to a Russia until the end of the war.    
   Because of the nature of the war propaganda, it is unlikely that Western media   
   will be allowed within Mariupol any time soon as there certainly could be   
   scores of thousands dead, as a result of the bombardment.   
      
   Certainly, in the other cities within the Donbass which are under Ukrainian   
   control should evacuate all non-combatants, which means that the soldiers do   
   not go back to their families when off watch. When they lose their families or   
   relatives stay dumb,    
   innocents suffer in war. Who is responsible for such crimes? Who is   
   responsible for the war since 2014?   
      
   Refusal to terminate hostilities till Russia surrenders Crimea?   
      
   See the fantasyland in which the West resides.?   
      
   So what is our leaders teaching our young?   
   Solve conflicts by accelerating threats or bu sacrificing pride and reaching   
   an agreement acceptable to both?   
      
   The war can be easily ended if US and Ukraine would quit certain demands and   
   simply "Make A Deal", like Donald Trump will when he is reelected in   
   preference to Biden.   
      
   Not that I like Donald Trump, but it seems the entire USA is bent on   
   aggravating Russia and China until nuclear war does break out. USA can lose   
   its democracy but the world population would survive.   
      
   From afar, it seems that a democracy can not be counted on to achieve the best   
   ad most logical solution.  The world prefers a god or an authoritarian to   
   rule, it seems.   
      
   Well there is our GOD , Creative Force or LORD of this Universe, as we, as   
   mankind, discover the secrets of nature so as to fabricate our sciences with   
   mathematical and logical certainty.  Yes, we do all bow down to the force of   
   nature, knowing full well    
   that nature does not simply obey our will, rather, we must adapt ourselves to   
   fit in with surrounding natural world.  There is a common base of knowledge   
   respected by all nations to this day, but fighting as to who may have access   
   is rather non-   
   constructive and even destructive to the general peace. Which is what we have   
   now.   
      
   Forcing nature to bow to the whims of the West is not to be advised.   
      
   America loves guns and war. We still remember how America stole land from the   
   Indian, and also Mexico.   
      
   Zelensky, by ordering no surrender and fight to last man in Mariupol is just   
   as responsible for any civilian casualties as is Russia.   
      
   The Russian cleanup of Mariupol will be done when under Russian control, and   
   Russia will pay to rebuild, but will not surrender city back to Ukraine. This   
   is not Zelensky's fantasyland and Zelensky is trying to act like world   
   dictator.   Biden holds him    
   in check simply by restraint of fighter jets. but Zelensky seems to want this   
   to be a third world war in order to regain the Crimea.   
      
   The talks cannot be going well, and there is so much vitriol, too much.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)