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|    Re: VIOLENCE CAN ONLY BE CONCEALED A LIE    |
|    29 Apr 22 11:56:08    |
      From: andronicus451@gmail.com              Dana petak, 29. travnja 2022. u 12:21:52 UTC+2 korisnik Jedi Master napisao je:       > Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and that lie can only be maintained       by violence. Anyone (people) who has once proclaimed violence as their method       is inevitably forced to take the lie as their principle.        >        > Putin and Lavrov can fool some of the people all of the time and they can       fool all the people some of the time but they cannot fool all the people all       the time.              Yes, certain "doublethink" is between Russian official guarantees for life to       all Ukrainian soldiers and "mercenaries" who surrender, but then we hear about       PoWs being shot in Donbass.              It is hard to say if it is the problem in the split tongue of Kremlin or in       the lack of control over the common soldier in the battlefield.              Basically, it is believed that most of the conscripts feel duped by being       dragged to front lines and risk their lives for $25 a month. Some of them did       not even fire a bullet before finding themselves in the first lines of combat.       But some of them also        showed violent nature that was evident in Bucha. And a couple of such vile       persons can intimidate their peers and coerce them to torture and kill       civilians and PoWs.              I've read little known historical facts that Russian special units have killed       150,000 soldiers in WW2 to prevent them from retreating from their posts       before Wehrmacht.              As I have been myself once upon a time drafted "from bed" to the first front       lines without having fired a shot in the exercise, I know how the common       Russian youth may feel. The thugs and criminals were mobilised with them and       they are all armed,        creating an armed mob instead of a professional military unit.              But this is the strategy of soviets from as early as Afghanistan war in the       1980s or earlier.              The best option for these poor youths would be to return to the lines and wait       for jobs, for many of them are also unemployed and sent to the fronts, unlike       tycoon and oligarch sons who are in European places of great fun. Therefore my       prayer is for        peace.              in the Lord              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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