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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    The source of Stalin's atrocities    |
|    21 Jul 22 17:01:01    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              In considering Stalin's atrocities, it is necessary to find out what was       Russia, what was Communism and what was Stalin.              Russia had a strong authoritarian streak both before and after Stalin. Stalin       was only the most extreme example of something that has always been there.              Communism advocated slaughters of propertied class, and there were atrocities       in all Communist countries.              And then there was the brutal, ruthless, paranoid Stalin.              Either one of these three would be bad enough; but being hit will all of the       above must have been horrible. The people who lived through Stalin must have       been extraordinarily strong. And even among those who did not survive, many       were strong enough.              My grandmother was one such person, and she was a very strong-minded woman.       Unfortunately she derived her strength from Communism, and she wasn't nice to       my mother, who also was a strong-minded woman and wanted to go to United       States. Her generation has        reputation for heavy-handedness, which cuts across countries. The same       character traits existed under a number of systems, and they clashed       especially with their children, whose own traits also found ways to exist       under a number of systems.              With Stalin, we see an extreme example of something that was a global trend at       the time. There were many authoritarian leaders in 1930s and 1940s, even in       America. It was worst in Soviet Union because they were hit with a triple       whammy of Stalin,        Communism and Russian authoritarianism. But many other people experienced       similar things at the time, and it shaped the way they approached life.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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