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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Russian Relationships    |
|    19 Aug 22 15:47:38    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              On relationships, the Soviet Union – and Russia before and after – were       schizophrenic. There was a traditional Russian influence that was very brutal       and misogynistic. There were also many writers, poets and intellectuals who       fought that influence        and spoke in favor of love.              In real life this played out in a terrible manner. A man would fall in love       with a woman and treat her like gold. Then his work mates, his drinking mates       or his sports mates would stuff his head with Iago-type nonsense, leading him       to be paranoid of his        wife or to think that she was a bad person. Many would say such things as that       women do nothing but screw men over or that he owed it to his gender to keep       women down or that his feelings were unmanly. The result was even the best       marital situations        becoming abusive.              Of course I took objection to that state of affairs. For a while I had the       irrational view that women were better than men. My experiences with American       feminists cured me of that error. I did not replace my stance with that of       Eminem or Osama Bin Laden.        I replaced it with a rational stance – that anything human, male or female,       was capable of choice, and anything capable of choice could be good or bad.              From this came the conclusion that the gender was was not the solution; the       gender war was the problem. The gender war has been teaching everyone involved       the worst possible behavior. Both men and women are being encouraged to be       horrible people. The        perpetrators on both sides have neither the power nor the guts to reach one       another. Instead they take it out on the people who have done the least to       cause either problem – the feminists on men nearest the liberal centers of       learning and culture who        are for the most part the least misogynistic men out there; and the real       misogynists on women in the inner city, Muslim communities and right-wing       communities who have done the least to cause Third Wave feminism. This results       in horrible attitudes and        behavior being encouraged and rewarded, and better behavior and better       attitudes getting people abused.              The gender war being the problem, the solution is the opposite. The solution       is men being good to women and women being good to men. Good behavior and good       attitudes should be rewarded, and genuinely bad behavior and bad attitudes       should be punished. Let        men from the first side of town get together with women from the second side       of town. That way men who are willing to be good to women will be with women       who are willing to be good to men, creating much better relationships than       they stand to have at        home. And the offending gender on either side will have a real-world reason to       improve their treatment of the other gender, or else see the other gender       leave in large numbers to be with people who are willing to be good to them.              From My Autobiography       https://olympiapublishers.com/books/my-autobiography              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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