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   Message 97,108 of 98,335   
   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Russian Relationships   
   19 Aug 22 15:47:38   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   On relationships, the Soviet Union – and Russia before and after – were   
   schizophrenic. There was a traditional Russian influence that was very brutal   
   and misogynistic. There were also many writers, poets and intellectuals who   
   fought that influence    
   and spoke in favor of love.   
      
   In real life this played out in a terrible manner. A man would fall in love   
   with a woman and treat her like gold. Then his work mates, his drinking mates   
   or his sports mates would stuff his head with Iago-type nonsense, leading him   
   to be paranoid of his    
   wife or to think that she was a bad person. Many would say such things as that   
   women do nothing but screw men over or that he owed it to his gender to keep   
   women down or that his feelings were unmanly. The result was even the best   
   marital situations    
   becoming abusive.   
      
   Of course I took objection to that state of affairs. For a while I had the   
   irrational view that women were better than men. My experiences with American   
   feminists cured me of that error. I did not replace my stance with that of   
   Eminem or Osama Bin Laden.    
   I replaced it with a rational stance – that anything human, male or female,   
   was capable of choice, and anything capable of choice could be good or bad.   
      
   From this came the conclusion that the gender was was not the solution; the   
   gender war was the problem. The gender war has been teaching everyone involved   
   the worst possible behavior. Both men and women are being encouraged to be   
   horrible people. The    
   perpetrators on both sides have neither the power nor the guts to reach one   
   another. Instead they take it out on the people who have done the least to   
   cause either problem – the feminists on men nearest the liberal centers of   
   learning and culture who    
   are for the most part the least misogynistic men out there; and the real   
   misogynists on women in the inner city, Muslim communities and right-wing   
   communities who have done the least to cause Third Wave feminism. This results   
   in horrible attitudes and    
   behavior being encouraged and rewarded, and better behavior and better   
   attitudes getting people abused.   
      
   The gender war being the problem, the solution is the opposite. The solution   
   is men being good to women and women being good to men. Good behavior and good   
   attitudes should be rewarded, and genuinely bad behavior and bad attitudes   
   should be punished. Let    
   men from the first side of town get together with women from the second side   
   of town. That way men who are willing to be good to women will be with women   
   who are willing to be good to men, creating much better relationships than   
   they stand to have at    
   home. And the offending gender on either side will have a real-world reason to   
   improve their treatment of the other gender, or else see the other gender   
   leave in large numbers to be with people who are willing to be good to them.   
      
   From My Autobiography   
   https://olympiapublishers.com/books/my-autobiography   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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