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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Benign Patriotism and Malignant Patrioti    |
|    10 Sep 22 19:06:51    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              A friend of mine, who is black, said that all of us are racists as we identify       with our own groups.              My response is that there are miles to go between identifying with one's own       group and hating other groups, and that the two sentiments should be separated       into benign patriotism and malignant patriotism.              Benign patriotism wants the well-being of one's people; malignant patriotism       wants the destruction of somebody else. The first is based in love; the second       is based in hatred. If such things as love and hatred mean nothing to you,       then what should mean        something is the results. The results of benign patriotism are peaceful,       prosperous, livable countries. The results of malignant patriotism is rape and       pillage. And that makes the two as different as night and day.              If you are in Syria, it is fine to want the well-being of Syria; it is not       fine to want the destruction of Israel. If you are in Russia, it is fine to       want the well-being of Russia; it is not fine to want the destruction of the       United States. If you are        in China, it is fine to want the well-being of China; it is not fine to want       to conquer India, Africa or Japan. The first is healthy and constructive. The       second is destructive and wrong.              No, you don't need to hate France in order to love America, nor do you need to       hate America in order to love France. No, you don't need to hate Jews in order       to love the Germans, nor do you need to hate Germans in order to love the       Jews. Wanting the well-       being of one's own people is healthy and righteous, and nobody should be kept       from doing that. The problems happen when people decide that loving one's own       people means hating other people. And it is then that the healthy sentiment       that is benign        patriotism turns malignant.              Benign patriotism should be accepted and nurtured in people. Malignant       patriotism should be suppressed. The reason, once again, is that benign       patriotism leads to positive outcomes, and malignant patriotism to negative       outcomes. The people of the world -        including one's own people - benefit from benign patriotism. They suffer when       the patriotism turns malignant.              The problem is not patriotism; patriotism is healthy. The problem is malignant       patriotism that wants not the well-being of one's own people but ill for       somebody else. Benign patriotism should be nurtured; malignant patriotism       should be confronted. And        then we will get to see all places in the world benefit, resulting in better       life for everyone.              Ilya Shambat       https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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