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   Message 97,538 of 98,335   
   Raskolynikov to All   
   Re: Ka-Putin   
   28 Jun 23 04:37:05   
   
   From: andronicus451@gmail.com   
      
   Dana ponedjeljak, 26. lipnja 2023. u 18:03:11 UTC+2 korisnik vjp   
   ..@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com napisao je:   
   > Walesa cried at Yeltsin's funeral but those that mocked Reagan also mocked   
   > Yeltsin. Chinese interests in the Clinton administration made sure Russia's   
   > requests to join EU, NATO and WTO were rejected. If Yeltsin had asked   
   > Ukraine to join Russia, they would have: This is all about methods and   
   > personality and not ethnicity. The Russian military leaders depended on   
   > Ba'athis arms sales for their living after the soviet collapse, so when Bush   
   > looked into Putin's soul, they objected and according to Georges Sada,   
   > secreted Saddam's WMD in fellow Ba'athist Syria. The deep state (Praetorian   
   > Guard, inertia, bureaucracy) is much worse in states other than the USA. The   
   > Russian military leadership is so corrupt, they have been clumsily brutal,   
   > making Ukrainians hate them so much they could never be subdued even if there   
   > was a military victory. Dependence on Wagner shows the breakdown of Russia   
   > into a confederation of feudal warlord oligarchs, with China eager to retake   
   > Siberia, Sweden Petrograd and Poland Ukraine.   
      
   As Mr. Putin and his policy have 80% of the popular vote, the alternatives   
   would have to   
   come to power by violent means, and preserve their power by the same means,   
   meaning   
   authoritarian, which would defeat their purpose and mission.   
      
   It appears that the time for regime change in Russia had just not yet come,   
   and Mr. Putin   
   might even be a lesser evil than some, more hardline communist, options.   
      
   in the Lord   
   Amen   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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