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   Message 97,579 of 98,335   
   Jedi Master to Raskolynikov   
   Re: The Daily Purge: Conversion From The   
   05 Aug 23 01:11:12   
   
   From: mantralectric@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:01:27 AM UTC-10, Raskolynikov wrote:   
   > The end of communism in 1991 was somewhat liberating: you would    
   > no longer go to jail for praying to God like in China, Iran or North Korea.    
   > This is the good news.    
   >    
   > The problem, however, is the experience of many real believers who shied    
   > away from the "real Christians" that filled the churches. Those were first    
   > in the pews of the congregation, but they also embezzled in privatisation.    
   > Somehow they made a deal with the priests or cardinal, giving the greatest    
   > contribution for church or Cathedral renewals.    
   >    
   > Later they claimed that they also have a deal with the people who wrote    
   > the Holy Bible translation. Many thought that they also had a deal with    
   > God, and left the churches entirely to the convertites.    
   >    
   > Why is this so bad?    
   >    
   > Real conversion to faith (the one that is accompanied with righteousness    
   > and justice) did not occur. The communists, on the other hand, also made    
   > a deal with the priesthood. The knowledgeable said that a part of the    
   > priesthood has "sold". The others called that slander. Even Satanic slander.    
   >    
   > The unconverted communists still posed as service to the religious    
   > priesthood: the shameful marriage with the tycoons and oligarchs    
   > was better not exposed.    
   >    
   > There was an obvious absence of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit    
   > in the "religious revival" of the 1990s. There were no saved and converted    
   > prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholics, or communist secret servicemen.    
   > In fact, there was one. He became President.    
   >    
   > The church accepted him as the means to gather the flock, much like    
   > the Vatican concordates the Holy See used to Christen the nations    
   > without much preaching. Faith revivals were quenched as "extremes    
   > not from God, but from the Devil". So, every movement of the Holy Spirit    
   > was quenched in the process.    
   >    
   > Since the 1990s, the spirit of control and manipulation started to dominate    
   > in the churches instead of this Holy Spirit. This resulted in pastors and    
   > "apostles" "Lording over" the flock in an authoritarian manner, and often    
   > resulting in mind control that resulted in financial exploitation at least.    
   >    
   > 2 Corinthians 1:24    
   > Not that we lord it over your faith, but we work with you for your joy,    
   > because it is by faith you stand firm.    
   >    
   > What was worse than just raising a loan for the church renewal, tithing    
   > from little and then being sacked from the church when you also lose job    
   > is the mind control.    
   >    
   > One of the basic requirements for any religion is sexual purity. The   
   difference    
   > is the means it is achieved.    
   >    
   > In some religious organisations, this is exercised by exclusion of all   
   members    
   > who indulge in sinful sexual habits. In some religious organisations, the    
   > mainstream ones, outward appearance is more important.    
   >    
   > "Village and neighbour control" is enforced to make the population    
   > comply to public morals. Which usually amounts to sexual repression,    
   > emasculation of men and virtual castration in the working environments    
   > and society.    
   >    
   > What is left are the "alpha males" who are not only allowed to explore    
   > sexuality and masculinity, bully and abuse, but also can have tens of    
   > girlfriends, later businesses and a lot of sponsored girls aside from their    
   > wives.    
   >    
   > Nobody regards this as "immoral", "prostitution", or even adultery.    
   > Nobody criticises this, and they are church donors and prominent    
   > members, in the first church pews.    
   >    
   > How is then the average Joe made virtually sexless or asexual?    
   > By punishing the selected "victims" who explore sexuality too daring    
   > or outside of the social norms. By this I mean that having a prostitute    
   > sponsor girl or a politician or businessman going to the bar or club    
   > with female dancers or girls who serve customers is not immoral,    
   > but certain men are labeled and stigmatised for far lesser sexual    
   > exploits - or without them.    
   >    
   > Often, former (?) communists assist such manipulation, and the spirit    
   > is behind the social repression is not the Holy Spirit, but the different    
   > spirit, the same seen in the State control and the same spirit that    
   > entices selected Russian virgins to think that selling virginity to the    
   > porn site is a moral and rational thing to do. Under such control,    
   > they are actually surprised when the chain of events leads to    
   > the actual intercourse and loss of virginity. Even when the whole story    
   > serves just as introduction of young and beautiful, often "good girls",    
   > not what would be an average "whore" or "slut" - into the porn industry    
   > as porn actresses for hardcore.    
   >    
   > The hypocrisy of the mainstream religion enables former communist    
   > servicemen to serve both roles. Sometimes the same people, and even    
   > at the same time.    
   >    
   > Using the same actors for sexual morality and sexual transgression    
   > and sexual industry and business creates perception that all religion    
   > and God are probably also fake.    
   >    
   > What is then to do? To let the flock sin in fornication as the Roman    
   > Catholics?    
   >    
   > Right now, the current state of affairs seems worse: the flock is    
   > not spiritual, but murderously envious and gossiping, especially    
   > those who are achievers in any way. Way too easily, beautiful girls    
   > are simply dismissed as "whores", and then the label sticks like    
   > a self-fulfilling prophecy.    
   >    
   > Sometimes, "gay" person also first starts as being simply labeled    
   > as "homosexual".    
   >    
   > Such business has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit, with Christ,    
   > or God. Jesus said: "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone!"    
   > Today, stoning sinners is the laughing stock.    
   >    
   > Then you see the same fornicators and alpha males posed as angels.    
   > Angels who seduce innocent girls i.e. to have sex to get a car.    
   > Normally, they shouldn't hear of such a thing. In Paradise.    
   >    
   > In this world, they have to be moral enough to decline such offer.    
   > Or to sell virginity.    
   >    
   > Such repression and anger is later misplaced and projected on    
   > alien races, religions, nations or groups. This scapegoating is the    
   > same strategy the Nazis used with the communists, the mentally ill,    
   > homosexuals, Roma and Jews. Today we hear that only Jews were    
      
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