From: rking164@comcast.net   
      
   On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:33:00 PM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:   
   > Jeremiah 15    
   >    
   > Then the Lord said to me: “Even if Moses and Samuel were to stand before   
   me, my heart would not go out to this people. Send them away from my presence!   
   Let them go! 2 And if they ask you, ‘Where shall we go?’ tell them,   
   ‘This is what the Lord    
   says:    
   >    
   > “‘Those destined for death, to death;    
   > those for the sword, to the sword;    
   > those for starvation, to starvation;    
   > those for captivity, to captivity.’    
   >    
   > 3 “I will send four kinds of destroyers against them,” declares the   
   Lord, “the sword to kill and the dogs to drag away and the birds and the   
   wild animals to devour and destroy. 4 I will make them abhorrent to all the   
   kingdoms of the earth because    
   of what Manasseh son of Hezekiah king of Judah did in Jerusalem.    
   >    
   > 5 “Who will have pity on you, Jerusalem?    
   > Who will mourn for you?    
   > Who will stop to ask how you are?    
   > 6 You have rejected me,” declares the Lord.    
   > “You keep on backsliding.    
   > So I will reach out and destroy you;    
   > I am tired of holding back.    
   > 7 I will winnow them with a winnowing fork    
   > at the city gates of the land.    
   > I will bring bereavement and destruction on my people,    
   > for they have not changed their ways.    
   > 8 I will make their widows more numerous    
   > than the sand of the sea.    
   > At midday I will bring a destroyer    
   > against the mothers of their young men;    
   > suddenly I will bring down on them    
   > anguish and terror.    
   > 9 The mother of seven will grow faint    
   > and breathe her last.    
   > Her sun will set while it is still day;    
   > she will be disgraced and humiliated.    
   > I will put the survivors to the sword    
   > before their enemies,”    
   > declares the Lord.    
   >    
   > 10 Alas, my mother, that you gave me birth,    
   > a man with whom the whole land strives and contends!    
   > I have neither lent nor borrowed,    
   > yet everyone curses me.    
   >    
   > 11 The Lord said,    
   >    
   > “Surely I will deliver you for a good purpose;    
   > surely I will make your enemies plead with you    
   > in times of disaster and times of distress.    
   >    
   > 12 “Can a man break iron—    
   > iron from the north—or bronze?    
   >    
   > 13 “Your wealth and your treasures    
   > I will give as plunder, without charge,    
   > because of all your sins    
   > throughout your country.    
   > 14 I will enslave you to your enemies    
   > in[a] a land you do not know,    
   > for my anger will kindle a fire    
   > that will burn against you.”    
   >    
   > 15 Lord, you understand;    
   > remember me and care for me.    
   > Avenge me on my persecutors.    
   > You are long-suffering—do not take me away;    
   > think of how I suffer reproach for your sake.    
   > 16 When your words came, I ate them;    
   > they were my joy and my heart’s delight,    
   > for I bear your name,    
   > Lord God Almighty.    
   > 17 I never sat in the company of revelers,    
   > never made merry with them;    
   > I sat alone because your hand was on me    
   > and you had filled me with indignation.    
   > 18 Why is my pain unending    
   > and my wound grievous and incurable?    
   > You are to me like a deceptive brook,    
   > like a spring that fails.    
   >    
   > 19 Therefore this is what the Lord says:    
   >    
   > “If you repent, I will restore you    
   > that you may serve me;    
   > if you utter worthy, not worthless, words,    
   > you will be my spokesman.    
   > Let this people turn to you,    
   > but you must not turn to them.    
   > 20 I will make you a wall to this people,    
   > a fortified wall of bronze;    
   > they will fight against you    
   > but will not overcome you,    
   > for I am with you    
   > to rescue and save you,”    
   > declares the Lord.    
   > 21 “I will save you from the hands of the wicked    
   > and deliver you from the grasp of the cruel.”   
   RT 11/13/2023 The US cold have had it all   
   Dmitry Trenin:    
   "The ongoing conflicts in Eastern Europe and the Middle East have the same   
   root cause. Essentially, the self-proclaimed victors in the Cold War – above   
   all, the United States of America – have singularly failed in creating a   
   lasting international    
   equilibrium to succeed the post-WWII bipolar setup. Moreover, the innate   
   arrogance of its elites, their complete disregard for the interests of others   
   and unlimited self-righteousness have gradually undermined their own once   
   unchallenged position of    
   power and dispelled a lot of respect and goodwill that many other countries   
   initially had for them."   
      
   Hence, we can see the necessity for heeding the words of Christ as he stood in   
   opposition to the elders of the Jewish temple of his time.   
   Both Islam and Judaism need some minor tweaks in doctrine so as to minimize   
   conflict between those of different faiths. It is true that Christianity has   
   its problems since there are diferent branches of Christianity.   
   What is not obscure are the few words of Christ that have survived the ages.   
   His message was simple so that children could understand which means that we   
   do not need to be so confused concerning proper faith.   
      
   Certainly the final solution, in order to survvive human extinction, requires   
   an extra effort during the next 50 years to succesfully manage global warming,   
   food and water issues, energy management, annd population control. All these   
   are immense human    
   engineering international projects..   
      
   WHAT IS NOT NEEDED ARE FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF SYSTEMS WHICH IMPEDE THE NEEDED   
   HUMAN PROGRESS.   
      
   Existing archaic belief systems  are in need of some fundamental changes, but   
   by what authority will mankind be able to establish these changes? In the   
   modern world, we are looking to create idiot proof methods which we can all   
   use to make progress.    
   Idiot proof means something that even a child can manage or understand.   
      
   Am disturbed somewhat by the existing status of existing national ambitions.   
   Extreme nationalism createss wars. What makes nationalism extreme is the   
   manner it's community behaves towards the other nations.  We can treat those   
   following Islam as a nation    
   and we are aware of the conflict between Islam and Israel concerning Jerusalem   
   as we are aware of the related items.   
      
   However, even when an idiot proof system is proposed we will still encounter   
   the stiff resistance of those defending what needs to be changed.     
      
      
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