From: andronicus451@gmail.com   
      
   Dana nedjelja, 3. prosinca 2023. u 17:22:20 UTC+1 korisnik Lazarus Cain   
   napisao je:   
   > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-6, Raskolynikov wrote:    
   > > P.P.S.    
   > >    
   > > Regarding the rockets indiscriminately fired upon the Israeli civilians,   
   killing some 1,400, I believe that they (Hamas) were misguided.    
   > >    
   > > Al-Maidah 5:45    
   > > We ordained for them in the Torah, “A life for a life, an eye for an   
   eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth—and for   
   wounds equal retaliation.” But whoever waives it charitably, it will be   
   atonement for them. And those    
   who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the wrongdoers.    
   > >    
   > > This "life for a life" never meant murdering innocent persons at random.   
   It was meant to be settled by the elders and the judges. Noble Qur'an has zero   
   tolerance for the "collateral damage". Even when it always happened in the   
   history, it was not    
   justified by the faith, but a "haram" deed (sin). Before 1914, the armies   
   would usually array against each other on the battlefield, and one side would   
   take victory. Though there were sieges of cities, raids and plunders on the   
   villages, in the last    
   century or so, the most of the victims are civilian casualties, starting with   
   carpet bombing and not ending with nuclear weapons and napalm.    
   > > Al-Nisa 4:112    
   > > And whoever commits an evil or sinful deed then blames it on an innocent   
   person, they will definitely bear the guilt of slander and blatant sin.    
   > >    
   > > Al-Kahf 18:74    
   > > So they proceeded until they came across a boy, and the man killed him.   
   Moses protested, “Have you killed an innocent soul, who killed no one? You   
   have certainly done a horrible thing.”    
   > > In this conflict between IDF and Hamas, it appears that 90% or more   
   casualties are civilian, mainly due to despicable attitude of the Israelis   
   towards the value of the life of a Palestinians child.    
   > >    
   > > However, since the Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982, when IDF tanks   
   commanded by the defence minister Ariel Sharon (later elected PM - which   
   coincided with the rise of Hamas) surrounded the Palestinian refugee camp and   
   left the slaughter to the    
   Lebanese "Christian" Phalangists in revenge to a murder of their leader   
   allegedly by the PLO ... Palestinians might be entitled to their own defence   
   forces and a self-defence militia. Hamas is only labeled as a terrorist   
   organisation by some political    
   parties, recognised as legitimate organistation by the others, yet shows the   
   traits of a political subject that can be negotiated with in the hardest   
   possible circumstances where they were tested.    
   > >    
   > > in the LORD God Merciful, Almighty    
   > > Amen   
      
   > The problem with quoting scripture is the ambiguity resulting from   
   cherrypicking.    
      
   Well, this is true, but in scientific world we neither prove every theorem   
   from scratch in each   
   article, but we cite references.   
      
   What we get from quoting the Scripture is a reference from an ex   
   ra-terrestrial Source.   
   We believe that Scriptures and prophecies did not come from human reasoning,   
   but   
   directly quoting what angels of God said or what prophets and apostles said   
   guided by   
   the Holy Scripture.   
      
   > This is why I prefer to use only the quotes alleged to be those of Jesus for   
   my solid beliefs. So easy to understand that a child can do it.    
      
   Quotes of Lord Jesus are not very different. I told you that the Prophet came   
   because at   
   the time a handful of Arabs and most of the nations now in Islam were then   
   polytheist and/or   
   pagan idolaters.   
      
   Al-Maidah 5:14   
   But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts.   
   They   
   distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had   
   been   
   commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part,   
   except for a few.   
   But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.   
      
   Noble Qur'an is very simple to understand if you:   
      
   1. Already have the Holy Spirit or the Spirit of God   
   2. Be ready to dismiss the Nicean 325 AD dogma which was not the apostolic   
   teaching, but   
   insertion of the opponents of father Arius. As the trinitarians were preferred   
   by Constantine   
   the Emperor of Roman Empire, it turned out that monotheism was proclaimed   
   "Aryan heresy"   
   and pagan trinitarian dogma the dominant teaching. But every learned Jehovah's   
   Witness   
   will explain this to a better detail than I could from my superficial   
   knowledge.   
      
   > Do not associate me with military might. I am simply a poor, weak, old man   
   due to face GOD in a few years.    
      
   God bless you even if you were a soldier.   
   Remember than first Gentile to receive Christ as Saviour was Roman (hostile   
   army) soldier   
   Cornelius (please refer to Acts of the Apostles chapter 10).   
      
   > I am aware of the problem with nuclear weapons, but will they ever go away?    
      
   I don't think so because people still want them. People will stop wanting   
   nukes when   
   the Antichrist and Beast seize all control of the nukes in the Judgment Day,   
   and they find   
   themselves decimated by them just as Palestinian children are decimated now   
   and the   
   politicians do not seem to care much. I guess the Antichrist will also be   
   mildly warned   
   to be more selective with the targets for his nukes, but not to stop the   
   persecution of   
   the Christians and the other believers in One God.   
      
   > I am aware of the problem with disputes, but how do we find common ground   
   when we cannot find common shared beliefs.    
      
   Faith in One God Creator of the Universe(s) is a good common ground.   
      
   Pentateuch, Prophets, New Testament, Qur'an and Bhagavad Gita by my   
   understanding   
   all speak about the One and the Same LORD God Creator.    
      
   > How good is one's education? What kind of sciencesand logic did you learn   
   and howdid you resolve that with religious faith.    
      
   That was not painless. It required destruction of the atheist mindset with   
   theological   
   decoration and accepting God as the Creator of Universe, Heaven and Earth and   
   of all   
   life - then science and technology come from discovery of what was created.   
      
   Of course, for example, Nikola Tesla just discovered AC current and high   
   voltage transformers   
   - nobody in the right frame of mind thinks that he created AC current and that   
   he is pushing   
   electrons through the 440 kilovolt power lines?    
      
      
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