home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   soc.history.ancient      Ancient history (up to AD 700)      57,854 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 55,995 of 57,854   
   reader to All   
   Re: Chance, was "Ancient Farmers Profoun   
   26 Sep 18 17:59:42   
   
   >>>>There is nothing you raise that is not common fodder for climate science   
   >>>>consideration.  What are here questions only are not yet answers.   
   >>>   
   >>>Exactly. And while that condition remains no self-respecting scientist   
   >>>should express themselves with certainty on matters of climate change.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>THe vast majority know of these possible factorss and remain unmoved absent   
   >>>>the evidence that would refute what is now known.  In any area of science   
   >>>>there are the minority who have questions, of such consensus is not formed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>Your evidence for this is ...? And what does it matter? Like gravity,   
   >>>the causes of climate change is not a matter upon which we get to   
   >>>vote.   
   >>>   
   >>Gravity ala newton is now superseded by einstein's general theory as   
   >>the new consennsus,ie. "vote" in physics.   
   >   
   >So much for the authority of the consensus in favour of Newton.   
   >>   
   >>>>Science goes with evidence, not questions absent evidence coming from them.   
   >>>   
   >>>In that case, is it appropriate to label people as deniers simply   
   >>>because they point out where the theory does not fit the evidence?   
   >>   
   >>Questions are not evidence.  Special pleading about segments of a model is   
   >>not evidence.   
   >   
   >You are changing the subject. I asked "is it appropriate to label   
   >people as deniers simply because they point out where the theory does   
   >not fit the evidence?" You seem to be avoiding that question and all   
   >that it implies.   
      
      
   Deniers are self labeling.   
      
   Not a problem, questioning is then followed up with normal science; which   
   the deniers fail to do. >   
      
   >Questions are not evidence, agreed, but they can highlight areas where   
   >evidence is either missing or ignored. One should not reach a   
   >definitive conclusion when there are outstanding questions remaining   
   >unanswered.   
      
   No area of science is ever without questions, but going with the best model   
   to fit the evidence at hand is normal science and upon which the consensus   
   is formed.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca