On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:03:31 PM UTC-4, Yusuf B Gursey wrote:   
   > On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Oh so rich & successful   
   JTEM wrote:   
   >   
   > I have nothing to do with Giwer or racist views.   
      
   Why did you write this? Has JTEM falsely accused you of   
   supporting one or the other? That would be the first really solid   
   evidence I've seen of JTEM being basically dishonest.   
      
   If you are concerned about the nasty Subject: line,   
   that does provide some evidence of dishonesty, but I do   
   want to know what is behind it. I support the principle   
   of "innocent until strong evidence is provided of guilt."   
   [I avoid the pat formula "until proven guilty" because   
   it implies "beyond a reasonable doubt". And that is   
   a very high bar to clear in informal forums like this one.]   
      
      
   By the way, as I never tire of saying, I suffer fools gladly, but knaves   
   with difficulty or not at all. Knavish behavior includes   
   dishonesty, insincerity, hypocrisy and cowardice.   
      
      
   > > The Nazis lost.   
      
   See my reply to JTEM for why "lost" is too one-dimensional,   
   or even a false dichotomy.   
      
      
   Peter Nyikos   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)