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|    Oh so rich & successful JTEM to SolomonW    |
|    Re: "Could Rome have had an Industrial R    |
|    23 Nov 18 11:00:16    |
      From: jtem01@gmail.com               SolomonW wrote:              > They had major shortages in wood so little coke. No gunpower makes coal       > mines much more expensive. Limited chimmeys so little domestic demand for       > coal.              I've said it before and I'll say it again: The industrial       revolution began with WATER POWER, not steam, not coal.              Gunpowder was never that important. Look at China. They had       the gunpowder long before Europe but still no industrial       revolution. No, what was missing in China was not technology       it was the social environment. Where gunpowder may have come       into play in Europe was the gun.              Think of it: Instead of a handful of artillery pieces they       needed thousands of guns to arm the troops. And immediately       they would have experienced issues with reliability /       interchangeability because, without industrialization, they       depended entirely on the skills of the individual craftsman       with standardization a pipe dream. And the technology kept       changing, kept improving so they had to replace all those       guns way too often, starting the whole painful ordeal all       over again...              So, gunpowder may have assisted greatly in the industrial       revolution but indirectly, assuming it did at all.                                                 -- --              http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/180404329073              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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