From: buzzard554@fastmail.co.uk   
      
   On 7/30/2019 11:38 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:   
   > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT), "Oh so rich & successful   
   > JTEM"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Martin Edwards wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> As a British citizen I agree.  America is about to sneeze, and we are   
   >>> going to get a cold, and many fatal conditions start with a cold.   
   >>   
   >> It's the other way around. Europe is a travesty. It can't defend itself,   
   >> the Brits seized an Iranian ship and then immediately hid behind   
   >> the U.S., blaming Trump for their actions, as if the U.S. lacks a navy...   
   >>   
   >> Europe has had one long period of peace and relative prosperity,   
   >> and that's the Cold War when the U.S. & Soviet Union called all the   
   >> shots. Europe doesn't want it anymore, the U.S. is sick of babysitting   
   >> and Europe is going to burn the planet down again.   
   >>   
   >> Guaranteed.   
   >>   
   >> It will happen. Europe has never not done so.   
   >>   
   >> "But it's the U.S. and oil," our European friends shout, pushing us   
   >> in front of the bus, as the U.S. produces more oil than Saudi Arabia   
   >> and exports more than Iraq was before Bush's invasion. "Those   
   >> Americans need the oil!"   
   >>   
   >> Europe is NOT energy independent. It's not food independent. France   
   >> is the only Western European nation that can even feed itself without   
   >> imports!  The U.S. is fine. Europe is the rotten, stinking structure that   
   >> can't wait to crumble.   
   >>   
   > Thank you for your response. It is an excellent example of what is   
   > wrong with US political discussion. Not only does it fail to address   
   > the point at issue that Martin Edwards and I were discussing but it   
   > drags in irrelevancies and employs gross distortions in its cherry   
   > picking of arguments. No country can long survive when its government   
   > is governed by thinking of this caliber.   
   >   
   The weird thing is that he makes some reasonable points at times, but   
   here one or more of his buttons has been pushed.   
      
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