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   Oh so rich & successful JTEM to Eric Stevens   
   Re: "Are we going the way of Rome?"   
   08 Aug 19 13:08:29   
   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   Eric Stevens wrote:   
      
   > No pressure? What do you think has got Iran so stirred up at the   
   > present moment?   
      
   The European efforts.   
      
   Look. If you want to make it look like you're doing something, but   
   really couldn't care less, you place sanctions on individuals instead   
   of a nation. That's what Trump did.   
      
   The U.S. has always had an independent policy towards Iran. This is   
   not something that Trump started. If you watched the 2004   
   Presidential debates, when Kerry was quizzed on Iran he talked   
   about joining European efforts... so clearly the U.S. wasn't a party   
   to them already, back in 2004.   
      
   Yes, Obama was a signer to the agreement but he did so knowing   
   full well that it wasn't going to pass.   
      
   Neither of us are in any position to speculate on his actions, had he   
   known that the Senate would have approved any treaty...   
      
      
   Look. If you want to discuss Trump then STOP pointing at his   
   keeping U.S. policy consistent and pretending that he's doing   
   anything radically different.   
      
      
      
      
      
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