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   Re: Christianity and the fall of Rome   
   13 Nov 19 19:54:08   
   
   One poster wondered:   
      
      
   >>>> It's an old topic but I have to agree with the "Latter invention of   
   >>>> Jesus" theory. For starters, Jesus was NOT "Christ." That's from   
   >>>> the Greeks, not the Jews, for anointed one and Jesus was never   
   >>>> anointed!  Others were, yet every reference to an anointed one   
   >>>> has to be Jesus...   
   >>>   
   >>> Could you expand on this? It isn't clear what greek   
   >>> translation/transleteration of names has to do with anything about the   
   >>> historiography mentioned?   
   >>   
      
   Another poster got his knickers all in a twisst:   
      
   >> To you. It's perfectly clear to the rational among us.   
   >>   
   >Quite.  Eta and iota were pronounced the same as the modern   
   >pronunciation was in place by this time, so some of the references may   
   >be to "Chrestus" a name often used by freedmen.   
      
   Where ambiguity exists about NT topics, including NT greek, the very early   
   church fathers writings can be used to resolve it.   
      
   disciple of John the Apostle - Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians   
      
   Polycarp, and the presbyters that are with him, to the church of God which   
   is at Philippi: mercy to you and peace from God Almighty and the   
   Lord Jesus Christ   
      
   Polycarp was educated and in and spoke greek.  He knew figures appearing in   
   the NT.   
      
   The last words of the above blurb show the two names, actually a name and   
   a title.   
      
   From the original greek of his epistle, the NT greek expert doing the   
   translation would have known of your possible alternative language point.   
      
   A quick look finds Ignatius) who was associated with Paul and also knowing   
   other NT figures and a greek speaker, is using the two sequential words in   
   question in his writings.   
      
   Other examples are possible.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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