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   Oh so rich & successful JTEM to SolomonW   
   Re: 100,000 year war   
   03 Nov 20 05:01:53   
   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   SolomonW wrote:   
      
   > War is not necessarily fought in one day.   
      
   You fight wars with weapons not penises.   
      
   Neanderthals were bred out of existence, just as the pure Hss   
   were. Toba and other volcanoes push them to the very edge   
   of existence and they were genetically swamped.   
      
   > > Global Cool -- Toba and other events -- nearly drove Neanderthals to   
   > > extinction. This left a vacuum into which Hss could enter. But even to   
   > > call them Hss is a lie.   
      
   > I do not see it.   
      
   Toba was the largest event in human history and would have cooled the   
   planet, and the northern hemisphere in particular, for a ridiculously long   
   time. For comparison:  The Younger Dryas event cooled the planet for   
   over a thousand years, and ended Clovis Culture.   
      
   > > The southern population met the northern population in the middle east.   
   > > They had already exchanged genes. The so called "Moderns" were quite   
   > > different from the Hss they left behind in Africa. They had changed as   
   > > much or more from interbreeding with Neanderthals than the Neanderthals   
   > > had changed....   
      
   > Most of the mixing took place in the Near East.   
      
   I just said that. What reached Europe was a new population of hybrids.   
      
   > > What it probably took was for the mtDNA of the so called "Moderns" to   
   > > evolve. Most Neanderthal interbreeding was from males with Hss   
   > > females, so the Hss weren't acquiring the Neanderthal mtDNA with it's   
   > > adaptations to cold environments....   
      
   > Some interbreeding did happen.   
      
   Lots of interbreeding happened. Neanderthals, Denisovans...   
      
   > Humans certainly did bring many strange diseases to the Neanderthals, which   
   > is what the article said..   
      
   Neanderthals were humans, as are their descendants. It wasn't disease that   
   wiped them out, it was their own penises. Toba and other events brought them   
   to the verge of extinction, and interbreeding swamped them.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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