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|    Md Yusup to All    |
|    Re: We don't know most Roman recipes!    |
|    22 Dec 20 08:26:42    |
      From: mdyusup1967@gmail.com              On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:05:14 PM UTC+6, Oh so rich & successful       JTEM wrote:       > Look. We don't have that much information. We do       > not have a good grasp on the sociopolitical dynamics       > of ancient Rome. All we have is the highly baised       > opinions of modern scholars which are loosely based       > (if based at all) on ancient sources which themselves       > did not survive.       >       > You read that right.       >       > Almost none of our ancient Roman sources come to       > us from ancient Romans. Almost all of our records       > are latter day manuscripts. Supposedly they're all copies       > of originals, yes, but few mention those originals, offer       > any provenance what so ever.       >       > I'll explain.       >       > You can actually go to Washington DC and view an original       > copy of the Declaration of Independence. And that copy has       > in turn been the basis for many copies of the document.       >       > Right?       >       > So you can hold a copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence       > in your hand that's only a few weeks old but still know exactly       > what it is a copy of -- WHERE the source document was found,       > the one they based the document on.       >       > Not too many of our versions of ancient books have any clear       > lineage to an original ancient source document.       >       > "Well, hey, I was in Rome last week, my Uncle Ted had a thousand       > year old copy of Josephus written in his own hand and I made       > this and another copy, so enjoy."       >       > Never happens.       >       > What I'm saying is that we don't know. It took us a millennia of       > prodding to figure out their concrete and we had examples of       > the stuff to look at! We're still scratching our heads over how       > they made some of their glass, and we can't nail down common       > recipes! Garum was ubiquitous and we believe we know the       > process but nobody knows the recipe. There are precisely ZERO       > modern products said to be Roman garum, though many       > products which are described as similar...       >       > Yet, morons state with such certainty that they know why Rome       > fell, that they KNOW all the forces at work, the KNOW how these       > forces interact... THEY KNOW!       >       >       >       >       > -- --       >       > https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/634644176738418688/theyd-love-to       see-some-ufoparanormal       This is a greater pleasure by https://www.fileour.com/adobe-afte       -effects-cc-download-for-windows/       So thanks.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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