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   Md Yusup to All   
   Re: We don't know most Roman recipes!   
   22 Dec 20 08:26:42   
   
   From: mdyusup1967@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:05:14 PM UTC+6, Oh so rich & successful   
   JTEM wrote:   
   > Look. We don't have that much information. We do   
   > not have a good grasp on the sociopolitical dynamics   
   > of ancient Rome. All we have is the highly baised   
   > opinions of modern scholars which are loosely based   
   > (if based at all) on ancient sources which themselves   
   > did not survive.   
   >   
   > You read that right.   
   >   
   > Almost none of our ancient Roman sources come to   
   > us from ancient Romans. Almost all of our records   
   > are latter day manuscripts. Supposedly they're all copies   
   > of originals, yes, but few mention those originals, offer   
   > any provenance what so ever.   
   >   
   > I'll explain.   
   >   
   > You can actually go to Washington DC and view an original   
   > copy of the Declaration of Independence. And that copy has   
   > in turn been the basis for many copies of the document.   
   >   
   > Right?   
   >   
   > So you can hold a copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence   
   > in your hand that's only a few weeks old but still know exactly   
   > what it is a copy of -- WHERE the source document was found,   
   > the one they based the document on.   
   >   
   > Not too many of our versions of ancient books have any clear   
   > lineage to an original ancient source document.   
   >   
   > "Well, hey, I was in Rome last week, my Uncle Ted had a thousand   
   > year old copy of Josephus written in his own hand and I made   
   > this and another copy, so enjoy."   
   >   
   > Never happens.   
   >   
   > What I'm saying is that we don't know. It took us a millennia of   
   > prodding to figure out their concrete and we had examples of   
   > the stuff to look at! We're still scratching our heads over how   
   > they made some of their glass, and we can't nail down common   
   > recipes! Garum was ubiquitous and we believe we know the   
   > process but nobody knows the recipe. There are precisely ZERO   
   > modern products said to be Roman garum, though many   
   > products which are described as similar...   
   >   
   > Yet, morons state with such certainty that they know why Rome   
   > fell, that they KNOW all the forces at work, the KNOW how these   
   > forces interact... THEY KNOW!   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > -- --   
   >   
   > https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/634644176738418688/theyd-love-to   
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   So thanks.   
      
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