From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   So was just watching a video on youtube from the   
   MET -- "The" MET, the famous museum in NYC --   
   and it present a partial kings list from the 18th &   
   19th dynasties of Egypt and... and...   
      
   It lists "Neferneferuaten" as the king between   
   Akhenaten and Smenkhare.   
      
   Hmm.   
      
   Now I know things do change but before I weigh in   
   here let me first say how I learned things...   
      
   #1.  Neferneferuaten is Nefertiti   
      
   #1a.  Nerfertiti in all probability was Queen Tiye   
      
   #2.  Smenkhkare may have been a queen, may have   
   been Akhenaten's name after his religious revolution   
   failed or they may have been a male heir older than   
   Tutankhamun, who reigned between the heretic king   
   and Tut.   
      
   #3.  There was nobody between Smenkhkare and Tut.   
   In fact, whether or not Smenkhkare even existed was   
   in doubt amongst some circles.   
      
   Now this MET lecture is not only saying that, yes, there   
   was a Smenkhkare but ALSO there was a queen who   
   ruled before him.   
      
   Oh. To make matters more confusing, this recorded   
   lecture at the MET is on the topic of Haremhab.   
      
   Which is weird because I learned him as "Horemheb,"   
   but that's the breaks when dealing with transliterations   
   (not translations) and evolving conventions...   
      
   NOW I weigh in here...   
      
   Neferneferuaten, in my thinking, was Nefertiti who was   
   Queen Tiye. It's not very far fetched, Tiye was the power   
   behind the throne during Amenhotep III's reign so the   
   government, the people in power, the people who were the   
   status quo would have really liked her sticking around.   
      
   "Continuity."   
      
   THAT is the thing you've got to keep in mind when talking   
   about governments and kings in particular. When you've got   
   a new leader, a new king, everyone who is not already on top,   
   rolling in wealth & power, sees their opportunity to gain high   
   office, titles, wealth & power. All they have to do is ingratiate   
   themselves to the new king, or be their friend already, and   
   ask. And their getting that office/title/etc means someone   
   else loses it.   
      
   Understand?   
      
   The death of a monarch was traditionally a time of chaos.   
      
   Well. Possibly overstated there. But it was a point in time   
   when the apple cart got upset, and everyone would go   
   scrambling to scoop them all up & put them back on the   
   cart.   
      
   This is also why, say, the Romans would wait until a king   
   died before annexing a territory. They were already at their   
   most vulnerable, the maximum weakness, incoherence...   
      
   So this exact same fact works in favor of a Hatshepsut or,   
   as I content, a Tiye.   
      
   "But the Egyptians didn't marry mothers to sons."   
      
   True. Not ordinarily. But there was nothing ordinary about   
   the Amarna Period.   
      
   "But Nefertiti had kids and Tiye would have been too old."   
      
   No. Queen Tiye is known to have adopted one or more   
   children, claiming parentage, so who knows how many she   
   might've claimed parentage of?   
      
   "But Queen Tiye was too old, old enough to be Akhenaten's   
   mother! Nefertiti was much younger!"   
      
   No. There's evidence that Nefertiti was no spring chicken.   
   Even the famous bust of the beautiful Nefertiti includes   
   some wrinkles.   
      
   "But I saw something that said Tiye was sub saharan African   
   and Nefertiti clearly had light skin."   
      
   No. Queen Tiye was of "Asiatic" heritage. Her parents are   
   known, their tomb amongst the most famous and certainly   
   amongst the most intact prior to the discovery of the even   
   more famous Tut.   
      
      
      
      
      
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