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 Message 208 
 Mark Hofmann to Daryl Stout 
 Re: Ailments 
 16 Sep 12 13:37:04 
 
DS> MH>Has any of your doctors ever linked your IBS to the kidney stones?  My
DS>   >thinking is that if there is more liquid being released in the bowe,
DS> it cuts
DS>   >down on the liquid in the kidneys and could increase the changes for
DS> stones.
DS> 
DS>   No, but that's something I'll have to ask the urologist later this
DS> month
DS> when I go in for the IVP.

I'd be interested to know what they end up saying.  The lack of water in the
system can certainly raise the chances of a stone for many people.  Getting
the IBS under control might be the key.  

Have you tried various probiotics?  Avoiding trouble foods, etc?

DS>   Three of the main symptoms of kidney stones are blood in the urine,
DS> extreme pain, and vomiting. Once I start, I can't stop...and have to go
DS> to
DS> the ER.

Yes, even though it was 13 years ago, I remember those symptoms very well.  I
had to take two ER trips while I was dealing with the stone I had back then.
                                                                     
DS>   I can't handle regular water...it's too bland, and it upsets my
DS> digestive
DS> tract. With the IBS and extra water, I get severe diarrhea, which leads
DS> to
DS> dehydration...then severe rectal bleeding from the hemorrhoids, which
DS> leads
DS> to anemia. However, I can handle either the flavored water (for clear
DS> liquids), but the urologist recommended Gatorade. I can drink 3 liters of
DS> that a day...my favorite is the grape flavor...it reminds me of the
DS> "punch"
DS> I used to drink in school over 45 years ago (yeah, I'm dating myself now
DS> ).

Finding what you can handle is key, and I would think with time would help
your overall health.  I did lots of studying of IBS years ago after my kidney
stone and it took me several years to eventually get rid of that problem.  

In my case, it was related to taking too many Cipro while dealing with a UTI
from the kidney stone.  

DS>   It is hereditary...my late father, my brother, my uncle, and my cousin
DS> (that I know of) all have had them. It is the closest thing a man can get
DS> to
DS> the pain of childbirth.

Yes, I agree.  My Dad had two of them - and apparently passed that probem to
me.  The main thing I have changed is drinking more water, every day.  It has
been working.

DS>   I know a young lady, who with both of her pregnancies, she also had
DS> kidney
DS> stones...as if the pain of labor wasn't enough!!

That is really horrible..  I can't imagine..

- Mark

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