Allen,
 
With all due respect because you seem like a very positive minded person ...
 
AP> Are you still with us?  Is Z5 still Alive?
 
... I must wonder on which planet you are living?
 
Is there a Z5 in the nodelist? No? So why ask the question if it is alive? It
folded somewhere October 11th 2012 when the last update was published.
 
Russell returned as a Zone-independant in zone-3 ... 3:3/50.
 
With all the jobs you volunteer for Allen, this is basic knowledge.
 
 \%/@rd 

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