From: barrysremovebeau@yahoo.com   
      
   Joseph H wrote:   
      
   > I don't find it troubling. I just find it as extreme - on the other   
   > side of the argument - as Scott. I take it for granted that we base   
   > morality more and more on knowledge and on capability. These are   
   > objective entities. I'm not saying the morality is itself objective -   
   > but it has an objective basis.   
   >   
      
   I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.  If what you mean is that our   
   preferences are not simply made up, but reflect some aspect of our   
   nature as humans, then we don't disagree at all.  I think the objective   
   of morality is to make it possible to live together, and that certain   
   rules crop up again and again in cultures simply because rules of that   
   nature are necessary for communal living.  It doesn't follow from that   
   though that there is a particular rule or rules that are CORRECT and   
   that other rules derive their value from the approximation to these   
   CORRECT rules.   
      
   At any rate, if I have correctly interpreted your statement, then we are   
   not in disagreement at all.  If I have, and you wish to continue the   
   conversation, then please restate it.   
      
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