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   From: m.publius@nospam.comcast.net   
      
   Sir Frederick  wrote in   
   news:9qe902dn4v67mni723vim5qehj17jcg947@4ax.com:   
      
   >> What is this thing called self?   
      
   > It is a quale, as real as "redness".   
      
   Redness is not "real"?   
      
   What is "real," then?   
      
   The self is not like redness, however. It is a complex phenomenal construct,   
   built from qualia such as redness (and many others).   
      
   > Read "Being No One" by Metzinger.   
      
   Definitely. But don't take seriously his claim that the self is an   
   "hallucination."   
      
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