XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.atheism, talk.atheism   
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   "Brian Fletcher"  wrote in message   
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   >> "Brian Fletcher"  wrote in message   
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   >>>> "Joseph H"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>> What is this thing called self?   
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   >>>>> Is it.......   
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   >>>> the activities of particular nerve cells, but not the nerve cells   
   >>>> themselves?   
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   >>>> like the sheen and smooth qualities of water when we see through   
   >>>> magnification that it is just grainy atoms   
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   >>>> like the melody of many instruments playing together, that something   
   >>>> that vanishes when they play seperately.   
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   >>>> a biological process that happens when nerve cells are active   
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   >>> That takes care of the eye and ear.   
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   >>> What of the owner?   
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   >> The owner is either the activities of the nerve cells or not? Can you   
   >> explain both outcomes and maybe a third way?   
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   > A third way? Ever tried to explain to an adolescent that they will grow   
   > out of it?   
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   > Until they do, one can only reassure, and inspire.   
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   >> What if my experience of life (IS) the activities of particular nerve   
   >> cells?   
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   > This is absolutely not the case, and is "knowable"   
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   Are you talking about how Kant nails Descartes by claiming that his "cogito"   
   is simply a concept or memory of having had an experience a moment ago and   
   not the actual experience?   
      
   If the concept that my last experience was not those activities of the   
   experience but other neural activities that converge upon "concepts" and   
   concepts about experiences in the form of memories?   
      
   But on a more basic level it appears that you have a way to eliminate the   
   possibility that expereince is the activities of the brain in the world?   
   Since you claim it is absolutely knowable can you show show us how you   
   negate the possibility of theories about these activities?   
      
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