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From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au
"Immortalist" wrote in message
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>>>>> "Joseph H" wrote in message
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>>>>>> What is this thing called self?
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>>>>>> Is it.......
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>>>>> the activities of particular nerve cells, but not the nerve cells
>>>>> themselves?
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>>>>> like the sheen and smooth qualities of water when we see through
>>>>> magnification that it is just grainy atoms
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>>>>> like the melody of many instruments playing together, that something
>>>>> that vanishes when they play seperately.
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>>>>> a biological process that happens when nerve cells are active
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>>>> That takes care of the eye and ear.
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>>>> What of the owner?
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>>> The owner is either the activities of the nerve cells or not? Can you
>>> explain both outcomes and maybe a third way?
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>> A third way? Ever tried to explain to an adolescent that they will grow
>> out of it?
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>> Until they do, one can only reassure, and inspire.
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>>> What if my experience of life (IS) the activities of particular nerve
>>> cells?
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>> This is absolutely not the case, and is "knowable"
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> Are you talking about how Kant nails Descartes by claiming that his
> "cogito" is simply a concept or memory of having had an experience a
> moment ago and not the actual experience?
Never read them, but it sounds from your explaination, he was onto
something.
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> If the concept that my last experience was not those activities of the
> experience but other neural activities that converge upon "concepts" and
> concepts about experiences in the form of memories?
Just re quote the slave "Epiglottis" or whatever his name is :-). It came
from the same source, via the same route (cleaver joke there dont you think
:-))
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> But on a more basic level it appears that you have a way to eliminate the
> possibility that expereince is the activities of the brain in the world?
> Since you claim it is absolutely knowable can you show show us how you
> negate the possibility of theories about these activities?
When I Was Twenty Four
It Was A Very Good Year....:-)
I decided I had better study philosophy, because all my friends started
calling me the philosopher.
When I saw the vast amount of information available, I decided "There's
Gotta Be A Betterrr Way"
Four years later, I picked up a book..a "jumped off the shelf experience",
which opened with "if you want to discover the philosophical interpretation
of life, write your own, and then move on".
The last thirty years has been a constant reminder that there are no mistake
in life. That everyone is getting the experience they need to develop self
realisation.
Ironically , back then, I had discovered how physical exercise makes a
difference, which prepared me for the stage where I was ready to learn that
spiritual exercise also makes the difference.
Evidence? I recognise all the existing philosophies I hear of, and their
limitations.
I can understand how arrogant that sounds, but at least in this medium,
attack is only didital :-)
People have to discover their own evidence. When the student is ready the
book "will jump off the shelf".
I started because I wanted to put the world right, only to learn, that it
already is.
BOfL
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