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   "Brian Fletcher"  wrote in message   
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   >> "Brian Fletcher"  wrote in message   
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   >>> "Joseph H"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:1141155912.450786.117430@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>> What is this thing called self?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is it.......   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A collection of personality-traits?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> Some special gift or skill?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> Some unique personality?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> A particular compendium of the beliefs and attitudes available locally?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> An I one pampers and indulges as much as possible?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> Some metaphysical and/or legal entity?   
   >>>> or..   
   >>>> All of the above - i.e. a vague identity to be called upon as and how   
   >>>> thge occasion demands?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And if it so happens that a person has no unique gifts, or none that he   
   >>>> knows, and is unable to submit to the conventions of the moment and has   
   >>>> no interest in pampering himself...does that mean that this person has   
   >>>> no self?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Or if a person has some physiological or psychological condition -   
   >>>> autism, say - that prevents him joining in the great swig of the moment   
   >>>> does that mean this person too is devoid of self?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And might we not say that human history is an ongoing theatre of self,   
   >>>> a never-ending frieze of error and insistence and assertion and favour?   
   >>>> And where stands the no-man, the man with no self, in this frieze? Does   
   >>>> he have any useful role to play? Might he - because of his inability to   
   >>>> join in the jolly lie -  be driven to find an underlying truth? Might   
   >>>> not the vast spectaculars of our capacity to sustain self - the ability   
   >>>> to create, to believe, to submit to form, to beauty - push us along a   
   >>>> path of error and illusion? And might the no-man, in this scenario,   
   >>>> have something to offer....?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ah, shure, I'm only hoping.....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Joseph H   
   >>>>   
   >>>> www.humanisation.org   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> From where did the hope spring?   
   >>>   
   >>> BOfL   
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   >>   
   >> Eternal ... of course! :)   
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   > 10/10 *****   
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   > :-)   
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