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   Son of Cormack wrote:   
   > "David V."  wrote   
   >   
   >> Son of Cormack wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> It is not religion that holds us back as such.....   
   >>   
   >> It is.   
   >   
   > That statement belies a lack of understanding of the nature of   
   >  Religion   
      
   Gee, that's what I thought about your statements. Your statement   
   was presented in a circular form and I got the impression that   
   you wouldn't be able to break out of that circle, so I didn't put   
   much effort into the reply.   
      
   >>> The followers of all the superstitious (theist) Religions   
   >>> need to wake up to this. It is not Religion per se that is   
   >>>  problematic. In fact Religion can be the most powerful   
   >>> social 'glue' in the world but it's basis must be true and   
   >>>  observable   
   >>   
   >> Hitler used that glue.   
   >   
   > True and Hitler could never be thought to be a Good Influence   
   > on society but he did at least find a way of uniting people in   
   >  a common interest. If that interest could be beneficial to   
   > all Humanity then why would this be a bad thing?   
      
   He thought he was doing a good thing by killing millions of   
   people. So did Pol Pot. Religion is not a glue, but a blinder.   
   It's use can come to no good.   
      
   > This kind of social unity can never exist while we cling to   
   > outmoded ideas of God and creation and morality.   
      
   Yet you say that religion can unite people?   
   --   
   Dave   
      
   "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."  Mark Twain.   
      
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