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   Brian Fletcher to Sir Frederick   
   Re: TRUTH: A fig-leaf of the imagination   
   15 Mar 06 13:55:37   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.atheism, talk.atheism   
   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "Sir Frederick"  wrote in message   
   news:6ooe12pft1c626fe11sv2lf5c4mnfu03fo@4ax.com...   
   > On 14 Mar 2006 16:15:02 -0800, "FreeThink"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Sir Frederick wrote:   
   >>> On 14 Mar 2006 13:01:43 -0800, "Joseph H"    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> >So we arrive....   
   >>> >   
   >>> >Hey, we're as tough as anything else. But we want a little explanation;   
   >>> >and we need a little meaning; and we'd like a little comfort; and we'd   
   >>> >like to belong; and we'd like a little harmony....   
   >>> >   
   >>> >But we can do it. We got the means to provide all the above. So we   
   >>> >concoct a little explanation and we spin a little yarn and we provide a   
   >>> >little hope...   
   >>> >   
   >>> >Hey, man, it's all nonsense. It's fiction personified, the more   
   >>> >fanciful the better. But we believe it at once. Hey, it's doing its   
   >>> >job, who cares? We got business to attend to. We got to eat and hunt   
   >>> >and screw and fight. So don't rock the boat, man. It's alright.   
   >>> >   
   >>> >Oh? Truth? You're kidding! Truth is for wimps. It's for losers who   
   >>> >aren't tough enough to survve.   
   >>> >   
   >>> >But...maybe now we need truth? Oh, you poor fool! No, seriously, maybe   
   >>> >now that have come together we really need to know the truth. Fool, no!   
   >>> >But truth as a unifying agent, truth now that we are finally capable of   
   >>> >knowing, truth now that those who still believe are more powerful than   
   >>> >the liberated rest of us? No, no, when will you ever learn....?  i   
   >>> >mean, there is a hope; there is a truth.  No, no, no!   
   >>> >   
   >>> >Joseph H   
   >>> >   
   >>> >www,humanisation.org   
   >>>   
   >>> In a meaningless situation, even deceit and deceitful   
   >>> stories have their effects.   
   >>> Consider the folk lore theory "personification".   
   >>>   
   >>> We can't be truthful because evolution found deceit   
   >>> useful. Deceit is now firmly a common aspect of our structure,   
   >>> and our medieval culture.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now that we need "truth", we are unable.   
   >>> Next must be the "Singularity", and new structures.   
   >>>   
   >>> The sooner, the better   
   >>> --   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>Even without settling for truisms in place of those elusive universal   
   >>truths there are some really affirming, incredible applicable in scope,   
   >>common standards that are very satisfying if you want to seek them out.   
   >>   
   >>I think that if we did find a universal truth it would make us very   
   >>unhappy. We would probably spend the rest of our existence trying to   
   >>discount it....   
   >>   
   >>Bring on special relativity, string theory and determinism!   
   >>   
   >>-E   
   > Why is there something? (rather than nothing?)   
      
   If there wasnt something, you wouldnt keep searching.   
      
   BOfL   
      
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