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   From: ralph@eddlewood.demon.co.uk   
      
   In message <1144361272.817718.253570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,   
   Joseph H  writes   
      
   >But many, if not most, creations of the human mind are more concerned   
   >with form or beauty or entertainment or hope or salvation than they are   
   >with truth.   
      
   Yes, Joseph, you are correct. What consequences flow from that   
   eventuality?   
      
   > Truth, what is, what happened, what's there, is the great boring   
   >given.   
      
   No, Joseph, you are quite wrong here. If you take the major fields of   
   science and philosophy and economics and politics they are neither   
   boring nor given.   
      
   >Creation is a transcendence or a diversion. No problems with that,   
   >really. It's just the way things are. But at some time in our existence   
   >we are going to have to come to terms with "what is, what happened,   
   >what's there". Really, I'm perplexed to see you dismiss all this as   
   >less "useful" than "almost anything". I would see it as more important   
   >than "almost anything"   
      
   Then why describe it as "the great boring given"?   
      
   Anyway, you mistake my intention, Joseph. This is not what I described   
   as "less useful": it was the stuff which you were posting. Sorry!   
      
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   ralph   
      
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