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   Roger Johansson wrote:   
   > David V. wrote:   
   >   
   >>> The will of God is that humans live in liberty. The   
   >>> institution of government conflicts with that will.   
   >   
   >> Which makes absolutely no sense what so ever. These gods   
   >> people go on about are just relics of ancient mythologies..   
   >> There can be no conflict with something that doesn't exist.   
   >>   
   >   
   > It makes sense if you understand the code language they use.   
   >   
   > God means the "higher" state of mind of religious speed   
   > freaks, and God is also used to mean the secret organisation   
   > of these people who share thar state of mind.   
      
   No, that is not true at all. To the religious freaks a god is   
   some kind of all powerful creator being and master of the   
   Universe  with a long beard and a booming voice that sits on a   
   cloud making judgments on peoples sex life. They actually believe   
   that silly being exists and is controlling everything. Just ask   
   that moron we have as a president.   
      
   > "To have faith in God" means to rely on the secret   
   > organisation of the speed freak people.   
      
   They claim a faith in this god just so that others will accept   
   them. This irrational need to be part of the herd is so strong   
   that they make up lies to achieve it and remain within the herd.   
   The herd leaders are the biggest liars and everyone goes along so   
   that they can remain part of the herd.   
      
   > The government is running a more modern secular society, with   
   > modern laws, and this comes into conflict with these religious   
   > people who want to live after old stone age rules.   
      
   They pick and choose those laws they wish to follow. If it is   
   inconvenient, they ignore it. If something is not covered, they   
   make it up. As you can see in the bush administration that the   
   rules on not lying, cheating, and stealing are happily ignored.   
      
   > The government has to flirt with these religious groups to get   
   >  their votes, that's why Bush is talking about "traditional   
   > values"and says that he is a devout christian.   
      
   Yet he didn't instill those values in his twin daughters. Both   
   have long histories of drug and alcohol abuse.   
      
   > The official laws in most countries do not support this old   
   > religious culture, that's why they need to work secretly and   
   > use a code language.   
      
   The code isn't very well hidden. Probably because they're not   
   very bright.   
      
   > ......... When these people start realizing that their culture   
   > is really threatened they start talking about opposing the   
   > government, maybe to create local communities independent from   
   > the government.   
      
   It's like that frog in the pot of water. It's happy when you turn   
   up the heat and doesn't realize, until it's too late, that it's   
   cooked.   
      
      
      
   --   
   Dave   
      
   "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."  Mark Twain.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)