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   Roger Johansson wrote:   
   >   
   > That is what they say, but they are lying. Very few of the   
   > religious people actually believe in that idea. It is far more   
   >  common among non-religious to believe that this is what   
   > religion is all about. The religious people themselves are   
   > just using that concept to hide behind. They are social   
   > manipulators and speed freaks.   
      
   Those are also the freaks that troll these newsgroups. They post   
   their mindless drivel here so that other sheep will look up to them.   
      
   > I know it sounds crazy to you, because I thought like you for   
   > many years before I got to know what the religious people   
   > really are like.   
      
   Not all are freaked out nut cases. Some honestly believe but you   
   never hear from those people. They don't bother anyone and some   
   actually have respect for other views and others not of their   
   religion. It's the freaks, like the one that started this thread,   
   that give the others a bad name.   
      
      
   > The thing that keeps them together is not an irrational belief   
   >  in strange ideas, but common mental experiences, common   
   > situations in social life, common practical problems of living   
   >  with a lovely concussion called love, or the holy spirit.   
      
   Some do it with lots of spirits.   
      
   > The religious people have been cooked for hundreds of years   
   > but it takes time for them to realize it, several generations   
   > for the dumbest groups of religious people.   
      
   It's amazing to me how a huge group of immoral people can claim   
   the moral high ground. They don't even follow their own moral   
   code yet they demand it be imposed on others.   
      
   > It often takes a war or something for the reality to start   
   > entering their thick skulls. In Europe most of them supported   
   > Hitler and went to war against the godless communists, and   
   > those involved in that war that survived are still ashamed of   
   > what they and their forefathers did. That keeps the religion   
   > on the floor for several generations after such an experience.   
   >   
   But how can humanity be so stupid to fall for it generation after   
   generation?   
   --   
   Dave   
      
   "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."  Mark Twain.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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