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   Roger Johansson wrote:   
   > David V. wrote:   
   >   
   >>> I came to think about something that might open your eyes   
   >>> to what these christians really are.   
   >   
   >> I know what they are. I've  been around. Most are just plain   
   >>  decent people trying to fumble through life like everyone   
   >> else.   
   >   
   > Okay, sure there are a lot of nice decent people around too,   
   > but some of the people who call themselves christian.....   
      
   The key word there is some. You are trying to represent them all   
   as crazed druggies strung out on jesus.   
      
   >> As much as I dislike religion, I'll have to disagree with   
   >> you. Most people are not as you describe, but are just plain   
   >>  old good people.   
   >   
   > But I wasn't talking mainly about the seemingly peaceful   
   > christans, but the practical religion in the youth culture, in   
   >  the violence on tv and in movies, the worshipping of   
   > determined manlyness, etc..   
      
   No, you were talking about all christians. You never used the   
   words, 'some' or 'a few' or 'certain' or any other modifier.   
      
   > That practical religion is about creating superhumans, gods,   
   > bullies and streetsmart people who use others, arrogant   
   > spammers in usenet, all with a heritage back to the initiation   
   >  rites in the stone age society which were used to create men   
   > with violent and powerful minds.   
      
   There you go again with patently false blanket statements.   
      
   > That is the real creationist culture. The people who believe   
   > in the biblical ideology, maybe without practising the   
   > lifestyle of superhumans at all are people who have taken a   
   > smokescreen literally.   
      
   No, they're mostly just plain old people.   
      
   --   
   Dave   
      
   "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."  Mark Twain.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)