From: swisspaul@gmx.ch   
      
   Sure but what you have described has nothing to do with the premeditated way   
   these children were abused. And because of what? Practicing an act of love   
   that placed them on this planet?   
   "Robert J. Kolker"  wrote in message   
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   > David V. wrote:>   
   >> It is not rational to hit a child for any reason.   
   >   
   > Bullshit. What do you know about bringing up children? If I see a kid   
   > ready to put his hand on a hot stove I will yank him back by his collar so   
   > hard that his teeth will rattle and he will cry a storm. But I have made a   
   > point that verbal discipline could not. I suppose you want to call that   
   > child abuse too?   
   >   
   > Bob Kolker   
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