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      XPost: talk.religion.pantheism, soc.culture.usa, alt.politics.usa.misc       XPost: talk.politics.misc       From: mars1933@hotmail.com              Democracy is a cruel joke when the Jews control the media.              "Jewry rules from behind the mask of democracy. What one calls       democracy today is concealed Jewish domination. Jews determine what       happens in the democratic states"       Julius Streicher, Der Stürmer, #34/1939.              "A couple of weeks ago I quoted a few sentences from a book published       in 1928 titled Propaganda, by ... Edward Bernays. Today I'll read to       you an expanded set of excerpts from Bernays' book to give you a       little more of the gist of his message. I quote:              "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits       and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic       society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society       constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of       our country.              "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes are formed, our       ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of. This is a       logical result of the way in which our democratic society is       organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner       if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. . . .              "Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it       remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in       the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our       ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of       persons . . . who understand the mental processes and social patterns       of the masses.       It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who       harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the       world. . .              "No serious sociologist believes any longer that the voice of the       people expresses any divine or especially wise and lofty idea. The       voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is       made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those       persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion. . . .              "Whether in the problem of getting elected to office or in the problem       of interpreting and popularizing new issues, or in the problem of       making the day-to-day administration of public affairs a vital part of       the community life, the use of propaganda, carefully adjusted to the       mentality of the masses, is an essential adjunct of political life." -       end of quote -              I should mention that Bernays' book is not profound or especially       valuable in itself. It merely states a few self-evident facts about       the way in which a modern society works. For the person interested in       propaganda, far more useful books are available. The fact that Bernays       was a Jew is not even especially relevant here except to emphasize       that propaganda, the mass media, psychology, and the manipulation of       others always have been subjects of special interest to the Jews. It       is not for nothing that they are as thick in these fields today as       they were in the time of Bernays and Freud. The reason I chose       Bernays' book to quote is that it provides a more concise and clear       summary, in a few quotable paragraphs, of the role of propaganda in       modern life than most other       books on the subject.              If I were you I wouldn't even waste time trying to hunt down a copy of       Bernays' book. Although it is available in larger libraries, it's long       been out of print, and all it does is state the obvious: namely, that       the whole concept of democracy is meaningless in an age where a few       people have in their hands the mechanism for controlling the attitudes       and opinions of a majority of the electorate. And Bernays also takes       the disingenuous position that not only is this control a fact of       life, but it is a good thing; it is necessary to control and regiment       the thinking of the public in order to avoid chaos, and it can only       lead us to greater progress and prosperity. He simply glosses over the       question of       who should exercise this control and what their motives should be.              If you really want to study the subject of propaganda, a good place to       start is with the 1962 book, also titled Propaganda, by the Frenchman       Jacques Ellul. That book is still in print and is available from the       sponsor of this program, National Vanguard Books. Professor Ellul       deals with the subject in much greater depth and with much greater       honesty than Bernays does, but he agrees with Bernays on the most       obvious and       fundamental conclusions: on the irrelevance of the idea of democracy,       for example. I quote from Professor Ellul's book:              "If I am in favor of democracy, I can only regret that propaganda       renders the true exercise of it almost impossible. But I think that it       would be even worse to entertain any illusions about a coexistence of       true democracy and propaganda." -- end of quote --              To me it is frustrating that a conclusion that seems so obvious is       nevertheless resisted by so many otherwise intelligent people.       Democracy has become almost a sacred concept to them, this idea that       the policies guiding our nation should be decided by counting the       votes of every featherless biped who has reached the age of 18. It's       like motherhood:       they're almost afraid to question it.              This seems to be as true of intellectuals in our society as it is of       Joe Sixpacks. The fact is that intellectuals are no more likely to be       independent-minded than people who work with their hands; most       intellectuals, just like most Joe Sixpacks, are lemmings. In fact, as       Ellul points out, it is precisely the intellectuals who are most       strongly controlled by propaganda, because they are more open to every       medium of propaganda.              And I must admit that it took me a long time to overcome the ideas       drummed into me when I was in school that under a democracy people are       more free than under any other political system, that under a       democracy we are all free to think and say whatever we want, and that       we have a greater responsibility as citizens of a democracy to make up       our own minds about things independently, and so on. Actually, we       still have some degree of individual freedom in the United States       today because more than 200 years ago men whose temperament was far       more aristocratic than democratic in the modern sense of the word were       willing to go to war against their legitimate government in order to       secure that freedom for us, and people with a truly democratic       temperament, who have been       gnawing away at that freedom ever since, haven't yet succeeded in       suppressing it completely.              Well, it should not be surprising to us that although books such as       Professor Ellul's Propaganda - and many others - are readily       available, almost no one has heard of them. Keeping the public       believing in the myth of democracy is an important element in       maintaining control over the thinking and behavior of the public. It       is simply immoral and       scandalous to question the reality of democracy. It's like questioning              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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