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   Re: Why Islam Is Anti-Democratic While C   
   04 Sep 06 15:21:50   
   
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   From: mars1933@hotmail.com   
      
   Democracy is a cruel joke when the Jews control the media.   
      
   "Jewry rules from behind the mask of democracy. What one calls   
   democracy today is concealed Jewish domination. Jews determine what   
   happens in the democratic states"   
   Julius Streicher,  Der Stürmer, #34/1939.   
      
   "A couple of weeks ago I quoted a few sentences from a book published   
   in 1928 titled Propaganda, by ... Edward Bernays. Today I'll read to   
   you an expanded set of excerpts from Bernays' book to give you a   
   little more of the gist of his message. I quote:   
      
   "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits   
   and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic   
   society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society   
   constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of   
   our country.   
      
   "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes are formed, our   
   ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of. This is a   
   logical result of the way in which our democratic society is   
   organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner   
   if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. . . .   
      
   "Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it   
   remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in   
   the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our   
   ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of   
   persons . . . who understand the mental processes and social patterns   
   of the masses.   
   It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who   
   harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the   
   world. . .   
      
   "No serious sociologist believes any longer that the voice of the   
   people expresses any divine or especially wise and lofty idea. The   
   voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is   
   made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those   
   persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion. . . .   
      
   "Whether in the problem of getting elected to office or in the problem   
   of interpreting and popularizing new issues, or in the problem of   
   making the day-to-day administration of public affairs a vital part of   
   the community life, the use of propaganda, carefully adjusted to the   
   mentality of the masses, is an essential adjunct of political life." -   
   end of quote -   
      
   I should mention that Bernays' book is not profound or especially   
   valuable in itself. It merely states a few self-evident facts about   
   the way in which a modern society works. For the person interested in   
   propaganda, far more useful books are available. The fact that Bernays   
   was a Jew is not even especially relevant here except to emphasize   
   that propaganda, the mass media, psychology, and the manipulation of   
   others always have been subjects of special interest to the Jews. It   
   is not for nothing that they are as thick in these fields today as   
   they were in the time of Bernays and Freud. The reason I chose   
   Bernays' book to quote is that it provides a more concise and clear   
   summary, in a few quotable paragraphs, of the role of propaganda in   
   modern life than most other   
   books on the subject.   
      
   If I were you I wouldn't even waste time trying to hunt down a copy of   
   Bernays' book. Although it is available in larger libraries, it's long   
   been out of print, and all it does is state the obvious: namely, that   
   the whole concept of democracy is meaningless in an age where a few   
   people have in their hands the mechanism for controlling the attitudes   
   and opinions of a majority of the electorate. And Bernays also takes   
   the disingenuous position that not only is this control a fact of   
   life, but it is a good thing; it is necessary to control and regiment   
   the thinking of the public in order to avoid chaos, and it can only   
   lead us to greater progress and prosperity. He simply glosses over the   
   question of   
   who should exercise this control and what their motives should be.   
      
   If you really want to study the subject of propaganda, a good place to   
   start is with the 1962 book, also titled Propaganda, by the Frenchman   
   Jacques Ellul. That book is still in print and is available from the   
   sponsor of this program, National Vanguard Books. Professor Ellul   
   deals with the subject in much greater depth and with much greater   
   honesty than Bernays does, but he agrees with Bernays on the most   
   obvious and   
   fundamental conclusions: on the irrelevance of the idea of democracy,   
   for example. I quote from Professor Ellul's book:   
      
   "If I am in favor of democracy, I can only regret that propaganda   
   renders the true exercise of it almost impossible. But I think that it   
   would be even worse to entertain any illusions about a coexistence of   
   true democracy and propaganda." -- end of quote --   
      
   To me it is frustrating that a conclusion that seems so obvious is   
   nevertheless resisted by so many otherwise intelligent people.   
   Democracy has become almost a sacred concept to them, this idea that   
   the policies guiding our nation should be decided by counting the   
   votes of every featherless biped who has reached the age of 18. It's   
   like motherhood:   
   they're almost afraid to question it.   
      
   This seems to be as true of intellectuals in our society as it is of   
   Joe Sixpacks. The fact is that intellectuals are no more likely to be   
   independent-minded than people who work with their hands; most   
   intellectuals, just like most Joe Sixpacks, are lemmings. In fact, as   
   Ellul points out, it is precisely the intellectuals who are most   
   strongly controlled by propaganda, because they are more open to every   
   medium of propaganda.   
      
   And I must admit that it took me a long time to overcome the ideas   
   drummed into me when I was in school that under a democracy people are   
   more free than under any other political system, that under a   
   democracy we are all free to think and say whatever we want, and that   
   we have a greater responsibility as citizens of a democracy to make up   
   our own minds about things independently, and so on. Actually, we   
   still have some degree of individual freedom in the United States   
   today because more than 200 years ago men whose temperament was far   
   more aristocratic than democratic in the modern sense of the word were   
   willing to go to war against their legitimate government in order to   
   secure that freedom for us, and people with a truly democratic   
   temperament, who have been   
   gnawing away at that freedom ever since, haven't yet succeeded in   
   suppressing it completely.   
      
   Well, it should not be surprising to us that although books such as   
   Professor Ellul's Propaganda - and many others - are readily   
   available, almost no one has heard of them. Keeping the public   
   believing in the myth of democracy is an important element in   
   maintaining control over the thinking and behavior of the public. It   
   is simply immoral and   
   scandalous to question the reality of democracy. It's like questioning   
      
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