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   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "Joseph H"  wrote in message   
   news:1159696306.983405.62040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...   
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   > Brian Fletcher wrote:   
   >> >> Yet some individual "masters", well recorded, have been able to   
   >> >> illustrate   
   >> >> the meaningful journey of the individual, over eons demonstrating a   
   >> >> priori   
   >> >> knowledge.> >   
   >> >   
   >> > Demonstating "a priori knowledge"? How can we have any such thing?   
   >>   
   >> Firstly you have to ask "do we" befor you can find out "how".   
      
   > Do we? No.   
      
   Then what is the question? Do we, or how do we ? If your pov is "we dont"   
   then asking "how do we" becomes irrelevant.   
      
      
      
      
      
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   >> Those masters I mentioned, didnt learn their timeless wisdom from others.   
   > They conceived, created, fabricated, fashioned...their "timeless   
   > wisdom". We have that capacity. You have it. I have it. What's the   
   > mystery? There is none. We make it up.   
   >   
   >> >i think empathy plays a large   
   >> > part in my life. I also sense that I actually don't understand, don't   
   >> > fundamentally "grasp", a lot of what other people take for granted.   
   >>   
   >> Taking something for granted is not "to be grasped". Empathy means "I   
   >> undertstand why they would feel that way"...like the rich guy talking to   
   >> the   
   >> poor guy trying to buy fulfillment.   
   >>   
   >> > This is, of course, a weakness.   
   >>   
   >> Not if you re look at the above definition.   
   >>   
   >> >But I also sense that it has forced me   
   >> > to see things in a manner others don't see them.   
   >>   
   >> The process of individualisation. "Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven"   
   >> is a   
   >> good biblical analogy.   
   >>   
   >> > I think most of us   
   >> > inhabit a particular "wavelength" of understanding. We take on  board   
   >> > belief and local and national loyalties, basic components of human   
   >> > existence, for thousands of years. I don't go down that road.   
   >>   
   >> More examples of "priori knowledge". You refer to "group think", where   
   >> there   
   >> is no priori kowledge. See why the confusion?   
   >   
   > A priori BELIEF - not necessarily knowledge.   
      
   A belief is made up of more than one person's pov, forming a mutual support   
   for that limited commonality. Knowing/wisdom comes from within"one"where   
   beliefs are transended.   
      
   BOfL   
      
      
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   >> > Lacking   
   >> > those loyalties - which are generally affirming and life-suporting - I   
   >> > have been forced to conceive of another stratum of support, one based   
   >> > not on creativity and tradition but on an assessment of what I feel to   
   >> > be true about our situation on the planet.   
   >>   
   >> Again, see what I mean when I say "external chaos stimulates the need to   
   >> search for inner reality.   
   >>   
   >> At least you are , what I refer to as "zooming out" to have a look.   
   >> Ironically, that also means "zooming in" to the true nature of the   
   >> observer.   
   >>   
   >> You will be surprised at what you will see, which is why it is so   
   >> important   
   >> to keep in check the self dialouge "They" are always out to get "you"   
   >> hehehehe..   
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   >> BOfL   
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   >> > Joseph H   
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