XPost: soc.culture.british, uk.philosophy.humanism, alt.philosophy.debate   
   XPost: rec.org.mensa   
   From: andax@bluemail.ch   
      
   On 30 Nov 2006 19:54:53 -0800   
   "a_friend" wrote:   
      
   > sdr wrote:   
   > > Bill Gates, the 21rst Century's Greatest Monster?   
   > >   
   > > Sweet Sugir wrote:   
   > > > "sdr" wrote in message news:   
   > > 1164767646.051951.89360@14g2000cws.googlegroups.com...   
   > >   
   > > > > Ask Bill Gates, who   
   > > > > is now trying with all his money to cure   
   > > > > enough diseases to ensure that the earth   
   > > > > gets to 30 billion humans as fast as possible:   
   > > >   
   > > > Nice to know you study the biggest philanthropist   
   > > > of history.   
      
   Maybe you wouldn't believe it; Nevertheless i and many many others do   
   ensure that too. And, you too, you can volunteer your computer's   
   calculating power to speed up bioinformatics or other inevitable   
   advancements, while you don't need that calculating power at yourself,   
   as a part of the most sophisticated supercomputer ever - the   
   WorldWideWeb BOINC Cluster. Even if Bill Gates would like to do affords   
   in that very size, obviously, he couldn't (but he could sponsor me a   
   faster or a additional computer to administer *grin*). Don't forget   
   that he would be a poor nobody if he would not have us as friends. Of   
   course, i am aware of some of his well known brilliant improvements and   
   i have a lot respect and am thankful, but that does not mean that i   
   enjoy the marketing strategies and high price politics of microsoft.   
   They are wether equitable nor fair. To be honest, i have antipathies   
   with capitalism anyway. Money, in my opinion, is corrupt as it is, and   
   bankers made far more warm air and comedy of intrigue than concurrent   
   businesses with HUMANS. I know, if some of these "bloody sovereigns"   
   read this news, they maybe start to affront me, but they are late. They   
   better should make sure to get a truly respectable job before they have   
   to get their only food out of trash bins.   
      
   > > I suspect he will yet prove to be one of (if not   
   > > THE worst mass murderer in history... up there   
   > > with penicillin and DDT). Those two "greatest   
   > > benefit to mankind" turned up just before I was   
   > > born and have almost destroyed the planet already:   
      
   Don't be shy. I would appreciate if you would continue.   
      
   > > When I was born there were fewer than 3 billion   
   > > people alive and now there are more than SIX!!!!   
   > > All in the space of my short life; and I've still got   
   > > a few tragedies to applaud before the final curtain.   
   > >   
   > > Wait until Bill Gates's money cures the few diseases   
   > > which are really holding us back: You're too old,   
   > > but your children will live to see cannibalism on   
   > > the industrial level (learn the lesson of Easter   
   > > Island, if you dare). China will not be a dictatorship   
   > > forever, and when the dictatorship there falls   
   > > so will all the restrains on the Chinese to pour out   
   > > their progeny upon the already starving world   
   > > with a terrible vengeance! Your children will curse   
   > > you for not strangling them in the crib.   
      
   Why the hell are you so convinced that money changes things in this   
   world? I would like to know much more about how things go in china but   
   i am sceptical and do not desire to wade into these problems. The fact,   
   that brilliant webpages like wikipedia in china partially are censored   
   seems very obscure to me and it scares me. I can not understand that   
   but i know, they really have problems to solve, we could not imagine.   
   Anyway, anyway they need their own inventions too, which do not bother   
   us, at least us here in europe, to make sure their own future. If they   
   go on and copy everything we did, the collapse of china, and obviously   
   their related external economies as well, would be unavoidable and we   
   can not help.   
      
   > > Baby, in order to restore balance to this planet   
   > > (yes, to save the earth, "ourselves" and all those   
   > > other plants & animals still left out there) we need   
   > > to undergo at least 40 or 50 heavy pandemics OR   
   > > at least a rock-bottom 4 wide-spread nuclear wars.   
      
   If i would think so, i would be a suicidal, but i am aware of what the   
   elder romans already said: SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM; If you wish for   
   peace, prepare for war. That may still have some sort of truth in it.   
      
   > > At this point the imbeciles in the audience   
   > > will ask: WHY don't we just "ask" people to   
   > > have fewer babies (as if people got together   
   > > to have babies--people get together to FUCK;   
   > > babies are usually a surprise, whether nasty   
   > > or not so nasty). Well, imbeciles, we can NEVER   
   > > "just merely ask people to have fewer babies"   
   > > for the same reason we can NOT just merely   
   > > ask people to bring about world peace [because   
   > > the only way we will ever bring about world   
   > > peace is if we stage a big enough war to secure   
   > > The Ultimate Victory that will force the losers to   
   > > finally agree to give us all world peace AND WE   
   > > ALL KNOW IT but there are too many imbeciles   
   > > which will keep us from that Ultimate Victory].   
   > > That's just the sad way it is with the world.   
      
   That's what also is your job; Transform one of these imbeciles into a   
   reliable brainhead per day and your day is saved, but never ever get   
   wicked with a inveterate idiot; He would exhaust you with your own   
   arguments.   
      
   > > > > At least Bill Gates is trying to do as much   
   > > > > evil as he can in the world.   
      
   This is not a helpful comment.   
      
   > > I really don't know whether he's trying to do evil   
   > > on purpose, or he's just THAT stupid. But there   
   > > are certainly MANY, MANY ways to use his money   
   > > to truly benefit mankind (without also damning it   
   > > in the same devastating swoop). Let him try to   
   > > cure migraines, or arthritis, or mental illnesses (por   
   > > los clavos de Cristo!)... but the last few diseases   
   > > that are still keeping populations at a manageable   
   > > starvation lever in areas of the world where they   
   > > think of having babies as an arms race! Why doesn't   
   > > he just drop the pretense and announce a $1,000   
   > > reward for every baby manufactured out there!   
      
   Confoundedly. I am worried with your obsessions in money.   
   It may sound odd, but i guess, til he would consider such a idea, we   
   already did get rid of money at all, in a way, that we are so faithful   
   in each other, that we just do not need such obsolete stuff, excepting   
   historical reasons. So, Bill Gates then also can put all his money   
   into /dev/null if he likes ;-)   
      
   > > Because he want the suckers to fall for his line   
   > > about th'pain a dying baby brought to his heart   
   > > --and a lot of suckers did fall for that one and now   
   > > think him some Grand Philanthropist, instead of   
   > > the truly frighteningly demonic monster he must   
   > > really be in the privacy of his candle-lit parlor   
      
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