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   Vigyazat to All   
   Re: We'd be better off without religion   
   28 Mar 07 18:08:26   
   
   XPost: talk.atheism, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian   
   From: vigyazat@hotmail.co.uk   
      
   From Christopher A.Lee :   
      
   > So what if I can't type?   
   >   
   > But it gives you a dishonest excuse to ignore fact.   
      
   Chris, you and I both know from previous squabbles that your standard MO   
   is to scream dishonesty regardless of what your opponent says.   
   Nevertheless, if you can actually point to a fact I've ignored - and I   
   mean *ignored*, Chris, rather than answered in a way you don't   
   personally agree with and approve of - then by all means cite it here.   
      
      
   >>And yeah, it's relevant.  You rationalise your anger and your hatred   
   >>based on your conviction that you're righteous and just - which is   
   >>exactly how religious fanatics justify theirs.  The problem is the   
   >>same: it's just the excuse that's different.  Slander's evil when   
   >>theists do it; it's an acceptable means to an end when atheists do it.   
   >> Imposition is evil when it's "you must believe": but when it's "you   
   >>must not believe", that's just peachy.   
   >   
   > Nobody is doing that, liar, except theists.   
      
   Personally, I'd call the blanket accusations you and your fellow angry   
   anti-theists frequently level at all religious people, based as they are   
   on your personal narrow views on Christianity, pretty slanderous; and I   
   don't see much leeway for choice in the hatred you express for people   
   who don't believe as you do.  But hey, you keep on believing you're the   
   righteous one - and the religious fanatics will keep on believing the   
   same thing about themselves.  If you need to accuse me of lying and   
   dishonesty in order to avoid facing up to that... well, as mentioned   
   above, it won't be anything new.   
      
      
   > And you pretend you don't understand why you are called the liar and   
   > idiot you show yourself to be.   
      
   I know exactly why I'm called a liar and and idiot by you: it's because   
   it's easier for you than actually addressing the points I'm making.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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