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   From: RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com   
      
   On 29 May 2007 07:00:54 -0700, in alt.atheism , bobcrowley@dodo.com.au   
   in <1180447254.419231.129460@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>  wrote:   
      
   >On May 28, 11:03 pm, Vlad the accountant   
   > wrote:   
   >> On 17 May, 19:16, Damien Valentine  wrote:   
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   >> > On May 16, 9:23 am, Vlad the accountant   
   >>   
   >> >  wrote:   
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   >> > > No your right,  I wouldnt demand it, id just ask people to read   
   >> > > dawkins book. Id even suggest they actually read their own "good book"   
   >> > > and see if they agree with any of it.   
   >>   
   >> > Well, I can't argue with that.  I've wished for the same thing many   
   >> > times.   
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   >> > > If you did have a child would you tell them that if they didnt believe   
   >> > > in santa a monster would come for them in their sleep and subject them   
   >> > > to the most horrible tortures. Would you tell them that questioning   
   >> > > the existance of the tooth fairy would result in them being shunned by   
   >> > > their parents.   
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   >> > > If you did, then yes i would expect you to be arrested as a   
   >> > > phycological danger to your children.   
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   >> > I understand where you're coming from.  However, that's where you, me   
   >> > and the law differ.   
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   >> > Funny story: many European parents tell their children the story of   
   >> > "Black Peter", in which Santa Claus is accompanied by a Moor (or   
   >> > demon) who carries a large stick to beat naughty children, and a sack   
   >> > to abduct them and carry them back to Spain (or Hell).   
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   >> that would improve the annual coke advert- Hide quoted text -   
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   >Militant atheism has already been tried in the former Soviet Union and   
   >found wanting.   
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   >It collapsed.   
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   >Apparently Dawkins wants to repeat the experiment.   
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   >In the end, all atheism has to offer is materialism.  The same sort of   
   >materialism which is currently contributing to global warming.   
      
   Would you say that the only problem with the Soviet actions was their   
   atheism and attitude towards religion? If not, can you point to any   
   other similarities between Dawkins and the Soviets other than the lack   
   of belief in God? That is, does Dawkins share any of the economic,   
   racial, or law enforcement views with the Soviet governments?   
      
      
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