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   Morton Davis to All   
   Re: Controversial Postings   
   11 Jun 07 12:58:30   
   
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   From: antikerry@go.com   
      
    wrote in message   
   news:1181428890.789258.244730@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...   
   > Forced pornography with sex is like forced child prostitution - even   
   > though in this case it would only be with other children of the same   
   > age - for legal adult pornography with sex is hardly different from   
   > prostitution in the first place.  And forced child prostitution, even   
   > with children of the same age, is rape.   
   >   
   > The different types of child pornography:   
   >   
   > Pictures of kids who just happened to be naked.   
   > Pictures of kids who were told or forced to be naked. - kids shouldn't   
   > be pressured.   
   > Pictures of kids who just happened to be having sex.   
   > Pictures of kids who were told or forced to have sex. - Could be just   
   > the same as rape.   
   > Pictures of kids having sex with adults or being abused. - Always   
   > rape, except if you believe that kids can sometimes consent to sex   
   > with adults.   
   >   
   > It's possible that mere pictures of kids naked could be legally sold,   
   > just like pictures of kids in clothes are sold.  However, if that's   
   > legal then next we will have kids naked in sexual positions, or   
   > simulated sex with other children - not actual sex, but close.  Is   
   > that rape or like it?  Kids forced to take off their clothes and   
   > perform sexual poses... it's not good to impose this on children.   
   > Again, on the other hand, some kids might very well want to be in   
   > porn, and consent, just like some kids want to be in Little League.   
   > It's possible.   
   >   
   >   
   Traci Lords. She was 15 when she sowed up with a fake ID and started doing   
   porn. Before she was 16 she was writing/rewriting sceens she would be in   
   often adding more sexual content. By 17 she was directing a few scenes. At   
   18 the word got out somehow that she had been 15 when she started. The IRS   
   came down on her. Opportunistic LEOs and DAs came down on the porn industry.   
   They tried to prosecute some of the people involved in her films, including   
   some of the men she's ethusiastically had sex with on film for child   
   molestation and statutory rape. Nothing came of it. Her porn films became   
   illegal to own, but few people care and her films are in wide distribution   
   underground. She went on to make three times as many "legit" films and   
   television as she ever made porn.   
      
   Recently the local news did a bit on local kids at risk. The followed a   
   father who was looking for his teenage son who had run away. He found his 13   
   year old daughter down on the local stroll. She had her hair done up and was   
   wearing cut off bib overalls and a tube top, It was obvious what she was   
   doing. She was making money having sex. Now I ask you: If she's already   
   voluntarily having sex for money, why can't she voluntarily have sex on   
   film/tape?   
      
   In many countries 12 is the age of consent. In others, if the girl has pubic   
   hair, they don't consider her a child.   
      
   Anyway, this is a stupid thing. We have science prodigies, music prodigies -   
   why can't there be sex prodigies? If some 13 year old girl in a string   
   bikini said you could have some, could you resist> How many men do you   
   think she'd have to ffer herself to before sex gets it?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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