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   From: antikerry@go.com   
      
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   > On Jun 11, 5:58 am, "Morton Davis"  wrote:   
   > >  wrote in message   
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   > > news:1181428890.789258.244730@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...   
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   > > > Forced pornography with sex is like forced child prostitution - even   
   > > > though in this case it would only be with other children of the same   
   > > > age - for legal adult pornography with sex is hardly different from   
   > > > prostitution in the first place.  And forced child prostitution, even   
   > > > with children of the same age, is rape.   
   > >   
   > > > The different types of child pornography:   
   > >   
   > > > Pictures of kids who just happened to be naked.   
   > > > Pictures of kids who were told or forced to be naked. - kids shouldn't   
   > > > be pressured.   
   > > > Pictures of kids who just happened to be having sex.   
   > > > Pictures of kids who were told or forced to have sex. - Could be just   
   > > > the same as rape.   
   > > > Pictures of kids having sex with adults or being abused. - Always   
   > > > rape, except if you believe that kids can sometimes consent to sex   
   > > > with adults.   
   > >   
   > > > It's possible that mere pictures of kids naked could be legally sold,   
   > > > just like pictures of kids in clothes are sold.  However, if that's   
   > > > legal then next we will have kids naked in sexual positions, or   
   > > > simulated sex with other children - not actual sex, but close.  Is   
   > > > that rape or like it?  Kids forced to take off their clothes and   
   > > > perform sexual poses... it's not good to impose this on children.   
   > > > Again, on the other hand, some kids might very well want to be in   
   > > > porn, and consent, just like some kids want to be in Little League.   
   > > > It's possible.   
   > >   
   > > Traci Lords. She was 15 when she sowed up with a fake ID and started   
   doing   
   > > porn. Before she was 16 she was writing/rewriting sceens she would be in   
   > > often adding more sexual content. By 17 she was directing a few scenes.   
   At   
   > > 18 the word got out somehow that she had been 15 when she started. The   
   IRS   
   > > came down on her. Opportunistic LEOs and DAs came down on the porn   
   industry.   
   > > They tried to prosecute some of the people involved in her films,   
   including   
   > > some of the men she's ethusiastically had sex with on film for child   
   > > molestation and statutory rape. Nothing came of it. Her porn films   
   became   
   > > illegal to own, but few people care and her films are in wide   
   distribution   
   > > underground. She went on to make three times as many "legit" films and   
   > > television as she ever made porn.   
   > >   
   > > Recently the local news did a bit on local kids at risk. The followed a   
   > > father who was looking for his teenage son who had run away. He found   
   his 13   
   > > year old daughter down on the local stroll. She had her hair done up and   
   was   
   > > wearing cut off bib overalls and a tube top, It was obvious what she was   
   > > doing. She was making money having sex. Now I ask you: If she's already   
   > > voluntarily having sex for money, why can't she voluntarily have sex on   
   > > film/tape?   
   > >   
   > > In many countries 12 is the age of consent. In others, if the girl has   
   pubic   
   > > hair, they don't consider her a child.   
   > >   
   > > Anyway, this is a stupid thing. We have science prodigies, music   
   prodigies -   
   > > why can't there be sex prodigies? If some 13 year old girl in a string   
   > > bikini said you could have some, could you resist> How many men do you   
   > > think she'd have to ffer herself to before sex gets it?   
   >   
   >   
   > By your post you imply that you would have sex with a 13 year old who   
   > offered you sex.  Anyone could say the same.  They could say, that   
   > like you, while not a sex predator, they would have sex with any 13   
   > year old who offered themselves to them.  Then how, are you, or any   
   > man who makes such a statement, any less guilty than the tens of men   
   > who were caught in the Chris Hansen, Dateline show with Perverted   
   > Justice; "To Catch A Predator?"  These men were seduced by adults   
   > posing as teenagers, and tricked into coming over to a teenager's   
   > house for "sex."   
      
   They also told these guys that the cops were pulling dirty tricks to get   
   them. And they told all girls sio inclined that there are guys out there who   
   are willing to pay them for sex. I implied nothing, dipshit. I stated FACTS.   
   Something people like you have trouble with. If you're in Mexico, Argentina   
   and most of the world you can have sex with a 12 year old because it's   
   LEGAL. In Canada yu can have sex with a 14 year old because it's LEGAL. In   
   parts of this country if two 12 year olds have sex with each other the was   
   the law is written they're both sex offenders who deserve to be on the sex   
   offenders' registries for LIFE. They're fucked up laws that serve no good   
   purpose.   
      
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